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[Alexis]

Hi Alexis, I don't know. I've contacted them for the bridge adapter and the carbon bowl adapters. Sent them some pics about and Jane told me they want make them. No more questions they just produced them. But the bridge adapter was'nt made as I recommended. Bridge pretty long, bottom of the intakes to flat (I recommended to make them deeper for better catching of reclaim, even better to add a detachable reclaim container at the bottom of the outer joint). But they've made what the made - not REALLY lucky about.

A few weeks ago they've offered the new carbon bowl adapters too but can't find them anymore at their site.

I asked for more other shaped mouthpieces (length, angle, joints, tappers, tips) demonstrated by a lot of pics I've asked for here. Jane told me Steven is wiling to make them. Ok there is a new one (45 degree angled) and already existing mps are now offerd as replacement parts but nothing of the new ones.

And I asked for a modular piece like the Sheldon Black clone with changable mouthpieces and percs, maybe 4 of each, at least to improve modularity of the FC-MOD by offering more percs and mps for it. But never got a reply, and never got a reply to my 2, 3 further inquiries about over nearly 8w.

Now I'm a bit frustrated and lost my interest in intervention. But I'm still very interested in a more modular piece than in a "Roor Vapor" (that's the name of this bubbler).

Will ask for it just one more time with an advice asking other producer for it if they don't reply or don't have any interest. I'm pretty disappointed by their communication. I'm no beggarly petitioner!

But what I'm writing all that HERE? It's the wrong thread for it

Perhaps I'll buy one at the Mary Jane Cannabis Convention this year in Berlin. Last year Roor offered a 20% exhibition discount on all their pieces and I was very tempted to buy this piece. But i don't think so. More than 300 € for that piece is still out of my cost limits for bubblers. I guess even 240 would be too much for my liking.

Thanks very much for replying and explaining that Hogni. It sounds like it would be very unlikely then. Oh well, I guess we will just have to try and be content without ROOR bubbler clones!

I am still really liking the UFO, with both whip and glass mouthpiece.
Here is my complete Elev8r setup, what a vape that is turning out to be! Have you seen the thread? Hands down the best tasting, purest vapor I ever tried, and I think everybody else agrees on this so far. Potency to match as well, to rival any desktop out there:


This setup with whip allows a great view of the vapor production, which is more important with a vaporizer like this so that you can see what sort of temperature you are at in case you need to speed up, slow down or pause your draw to let the heater cool down slightly when I have overheated a little.

Edit- DAMN you just cannot beat the pure taste and feel of this low temp (guessing 180-195 C). And effects to match.

Honestly- if you can find a way to keep that glass heater at precise temperature...
You have the most perfect vaporizer that has ever existed! Seriously, somebody will find a way to do this with glass or quartz.

For now I try to use my impaired senses to guess the heatups. Simply amazing when just right.

 

[Hogni]

Nice! But don't feed my VAS, bloody bastard!

 

[Alexis]

Nice! But don't feed my VAS, bloody bastard!

You will be okay pal, I feel you have enough to keep you busy and satisfied for now, and you need to start saving for the SV4, also sell @pxl_jockey your Herbo so you can get the Digital like myself soon (excited!)

So just one more to "know" about, no harm there eh?

 

[Baron23]

Thanks Baron, always appreciate your thoughts which I know are always focused on helping as much as your wisdom and experience allows.

hahaha...actually I often think I'm often focused on venting my childish frustrations and anxiety on anybody around me! LOL

And yes, for the most part we are all....even in legal states...pretty focused on efficient use of our herb and not wasting it (even in 'cheap' states its still plenty of $$) and so I think this subject of optimization of cannibalized absorption will continue but will not be resolved until good scientific studies are done. I'm hopeful that will occur in Israel as its certainly not happening in the USA with that little shit head fascist Sessions running our Dept of Justice (what a misnomer that is....home of civil asset forfeiture....otherwise known as legal theft by your government).

I note that there are many people who have said how surprised...really shocked....at the huge effect they got from the MV-1 (honeymoon effect aside, yeah?). I have thought this to very possibly be related to the fact that their vapor path inserts fresh air into the vapor (to cool it) before it hits your mouth but the long slow draw with plenty of air seems to me to ensure that the draw gets deep into the lungs and also optimizes the time vapor is traveling over your lungs receptors.

All mental masturbation until there is some peer reviewed scientific work done on it.

Take care, Alexis. Glad you are liking your elev8tor!!

 

[Alexis]

I have thought this to very possibly be related to the fact that their vapor path inserts fresh air into the vapor (to cool it) before it hits your mouth but the long slow draw with plenty of air seems to me to ensure that the draw gets deep into the lungs and also optimizes the time vapor it traveling over your lungs receptors.

Yes I agree strongly with that logic. The Mv1 looks very interesting indeed, for me personally too for sensitivity reasons.
I certainly apply this logic when I am thinking about the long vapcap hits which are really huge but often can have such a little exhale.
Where does it go? It goes in me! This will sure be at the heart of the Dynavap's notirious efficiency.
Other vapes Im always blowing huge clouds while trying NOT to!

And Im right with you too Baron on hoping to see scientific revelation on these things.
Yeah the Elev8r is cool, I saw Bud's stream on it. I hope he gives it another whirl to see just what it is capable of, flavour and effect wise. Wishing you a comfortable and enjoyable weekend Baron.

(Oh yeah, Vapefiend is already out of stock of those bridge adapters- I made sure to ordee mine first, THEN share here!)

 

[MrMonss]

I certainly apply this logic when I am thinking about the long vapcap hits which are really huge but often can have such a little exhale.
Where does it go? It goes in me! This will sure be at the heart of the Dynavap's notirious efficiency.
Other vapes Im always blowing huge clouds while trying NOT to!

And Im right with you too Baron on hoping to see scientific revelation on these things.

I confess that with vape I came out of my old dirty habits.
Very often, especially in the evening, I take a long draw, I swallow a big sip of beer, then I spit the vapor.. May be psychological, but I have the impression that it helps less spit steam/vapor.

 

[Alexis]

I confess that with vape I came out of my old dirty habits.
Very often, especially in the evening, I take a long draw, I swallow a big sip of beer, then I spit the vapor.. May be psychological, but I have the impression that it helps less spit steam/vapor.

Nice idea MrMonss- like a giant beer waterfall- "Get back down there now you naughty vapor"

 

[mixchu69]

That was my residue!
I have redone the video. Yes it is longer, but with a tool like this it is hard to put it into one short vid!

@Alexis
Have you checked out @Vitolo video on the Newvape thread? He does an unboxing and hits the Showerhead with Newvape's version of the FC-186. Looking at how he pulls the vapor, it looks a lot easier than the FC-186. What do you think?

 

[Alexis]

@Alexis
Have you checked out @Vitolo video on the Newvape thread? He does an unboxing and hits the Showerhead with Newvape's version of the FC-186. Looking at how he pulls the vapor, it looks a lot easier than the FC-186. What do you think?

Yes and to be honest I am slightly aggrieved at the unprofessionalism of Edwyn when he came out very sternly recommending the 186 as the new "FP beater", with a link direct to the taller 34cm one by Steven.

At the same time he said how this would be their preferred FP rig and they would be stocking it in place of the old 187(?).

I could see at the time that the model Edwyn showed using in photos looked disticntly shorter and different shape than the taller 186. Only slightly shorter actually, but enough to make a difference.

Also the mouthpiece is angled down more so you can see the vapor build. It just looks much easier to pull though and clear. I agree with you on that.
Sorry I am just a bit crabby today. Hardly eaten anyhing lately and too cold to sleep all night. I think I would be happier with the Newvape model for sure though.
At the time I did my best to get some clarity from Edwyn as to why his model was different from the one he was linking and suggesting in the thread (which many rushed to buy).

I couldn't get his opinion on it at the time. Just a bit of an irresponsible oversight I feel.
Don't get me wrong, I like Edwyn a lot, and I am in the minority that feel he was wrongly treated in the thread when it all blew up. Sure he lost his cool, but that is because he is so sensitive and passionate, more than the majority of people here are able to perceive. He really does care about people as well I do believe which is sadly a little rare in the world it can seem.

The crowd can be cruel, and my eyes clearly saw an overly insensitive and intolerant crowd working up an unneccesary drama, self piteously casting themselves as victims of a terrible (phantom) assault, when the whole thing just needed calming down civilily to diffuse the situation before it erupted.

So I am in Edwyn's corner, I just was a bit puzzled why he was reccommending a different model to the one he was really recommending and using himself.

Sorry anybody who I am sure sees all that differently I dont mean to offend anybone honestly. I just feel that the situation should have been handled differently by everybody, and didnt like seeing the witch hunt with Edwyn cast as the sole demon eventually.

 

[Hogni]

Yes and to be honest I am slightly aggrieved at the unprofessionalism of Edwyn when he came out very sternly recommending the 186 as the new "FP beater", with a link direct to the taller 34cm one by Steven.

Don't get me wrong, I like Edwyn a lot, and I am in the minority that feel he was wrongly treated in the thread when it all blew up. Sure he lost his cool, but that is because he is so sensitive and passionate, more than the majority of people here are able to perceive. He really does care about people as well I do believe which is sadly a little rare in the world it can seem.

The crowd can be cruel, and my eyes clearly saw an overly insensitive and intolerant crowd working up an unneccesary drama, self piteously casting themselves as victims of a terrible (phantom) assault, when the whole thing just needed calming down civilily to diffuse the situation before it erupted.

Sorry, @Alexis, I like you very much but this is a pretty doubtful opinion. Although it's absolutely OT I can't resist to reply to this interpretation as a reality distorsion of a really derailed sensation here and now.

I appreciate Edwyn as mastermind and producer of this really awesome devices very much but nobody knows why he was pissed off. His behaviour was just choleric w/o any reason.
There were the most constructive critics, nearly his best betatesters, who just adviced him in a friendly way to a little flaw of construction of the new bowls and he's standing like a little child and claims "you are all wrong, everything is working flawless!" and he is leaving the thread in the sulk? One week later he overworked the new bowls regarding the mentioned flaw as suggested w/o any comment or even an excuse for that at least "unprofessional" behaviour. Don't bite the hand that feeds you!
But good to know, if I should acting like an defiant choleric child in the future I'll say it's just cause of my sensitiviness and my passion and everybody will understand that for sure

Alexis, better read the whole incident again

BTT regarding Vitolos's vid on unboxing the FP bundle have I seen right, that there was a FC 186 with Matrix logo included?

Pretty reckless I would say.

 

[Alexis]

Sorry, @Alexis, I like you very much but this is a pretty doubtful opinion. Although it's absolutely OT I can't resist to reply to this interpretation as a reality distorsion of a really derailed sensation here and now.

I appreciate Edwyn as mastermind and producer of this really awesome devices very much but nobody knows why he was pissed off. His behaviour was just choleric w/o any reason.
There were the most constructive critics, nearly his best betatesters, who just adviced him in a friendly way to a little flaw of construction of the new bowls and he's standing like a little child and claims "you are all wrong, everything is working flawless!" and he is leaving the thread in the sulk? One week later he overworked the new bowls regarding the mentioned flaw as suggested w/o any comment or even an excuse for that at least "unprofessional" behaviour. Don't bite the hand that feeds you!
But good to know, if I should acting like an defiant choleric child in the future I'll say it's just cause of my sensitiviness and my passion and everybody will understand that for sure

Alexis, better read the whole incident again

BTT regarding Vitolos's vid on unboxing the FP bundle have I seen right, that there was a FC 186 with Matrix logo included?

Pretty reckless I would say.

I appreciate you always Hogni and you can always be dead honest with me I respect you and you have your right of opinion. I can empathize with your view, but I also try to be forgiiving of human nature when others can be very quick to judge. That is all friend, thank you for your honesty.

By the way, I got the bridge adpter from Vapefiend- it's really sweet, well made, compact. It will be perfect for my Ti. Very pleased.

Sorry again if I offend anybody by defending Edwyn. In a better mood now , was all a bit bleak earlier.

Back to Elev8r fresh load- roasting sweet potatoes with boiled green cauliflour, red kidney beans and sauerkraut, plus my fave spices and tons olive oil and good salt as a sauce. Yum!

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

Who the fuck is Edwyn and how does he relate to this thread?

 

[Alexis]

Who the fuck is Edwyn and how does he relate to this thread?

It was in relation to the recommended FC-186 model for the Flowerpot by Newvape. Newvape's own model in videos which they have on their site is actually slightly different in design and possibly a better function, than the taller 34 cm 186 by Steven.
It looks eaisier to milk and clear with the Flowerpot possibly, and some confusion has arisen over this.
My fauly totally for derailing from there. There was a big blow up in the thread which was blown out of proportion that's all.

I personally do feel that the slightly shorter 186 model Newvape offer (I believe you could find it on dhgate), would be my preference and just a little easier to use.

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

It was in relation to the recommended FC-186 model for the Flowerpot by Newvape. Newvape's own model in videos which they have on their site is actually slightly different in design and possibly a better function, than the taller 34 cm 186 by Steven.
It looks eaisier to milk and clear with the Flowerpot possibly, and some confusion has arisen over this.
My fauly totally for derailing from there. There was a big blow up in the thread which was blown out of proportion that's all.

I personally do feel that the slightly shorter 286 model Newvape offer (I believe you could find it on dhgate), would be my preference and just a little easier to use.

haha I remember him! He was having a meltdown a few months back too

 

[MrMonss]

BTT regarding Vitolos's vid on unboxing the FP bundle have I seen right, that there was a FC 186 with Matrix logo included?

This gentleman sells his device coupled with a counterfeit Glass ??
Is it possible to do this nowadays in the US ? It shouldn't take long, he's got to risk a lot of legal.

 

[Hogni]

Sorry, I meant "Moebius" of course.

 

[ataxian]

I think it's about physics, but I can not find the exact english term (call of air?).
In any case with the TI the answer is impressive, try it if you don't have (This effect also works by removing and restoring the injector on the same inspiration).

For the dropdown I can not really express myself because I broke my D20D. But I have a dropdown of similar shape (N shape) and I also think it can enter.
THIS is the one that i have, you can also use it as a carb/dropdown (i use my finger on the male joint, not the glass part)

I have so many set-up's?
SMALL BUBBLER reduced mouthpiece + ASH COLLECTOR + GOD"S GIFT (VERY TIGHT) = CIVILIZED MEDICATION (VERY OLD BUT FUNCTIONAL)

 

[MrMonss]

I just found something interesting.
I received a glass order, I bought the new "uncivilized" mouthpiece, the CloudBuddy and a FC Rattle Can from Steven.
A little disappointed by all this (I was hoping the same mouthpiece base on the FC Mod, but just with the different angle, it is thinner in diameter, aka a bit more civilized, and the RattleCan is good but nothing more).. I was looking at these "cloud buddy" adapters and wondering why I bought them because I already have too many adapters that do the same trick.
When suddenly I realized that they were almost identical to the bowl of my herborizer, but the grid was impossible to hold in place. I pulled out an Arizer basket screen (one of the most useful accessories in this vapeworld), and it works perfectly !! I think it can be useful for different vapes.
Now I have my bowl and my carb on the same piece (but I already broke one of the two plug)..

The good thing is that the mouthpiece can be used as a steamroller/vape pipe

Nice construction @ataxian
SOrt of Tour Eiffel thing.

 

[Alexis]

Very useful MrMonss thanks for some more fresh ideas for my own Herbo in near time. I will have to quiz you at some point on the effectiveness of this as a microdose bowl.

I am planning to get the Microbowl from Seb, and 2 standard 18 mm bowls. But now you tempt me with a new option.
See how you like the Rattlecan for the Ti as well. Carlos was adamant for a while that it was his favorite Herbo rig out of more than 20. That is before he gave up watet tools completely for the dry steam roller.

 

[babaganush]

Would anyone know what size downstems the FC Mod takes? Was looking for other 3rd party options and Im hoping the sizing is something standard like 28.8mm.

 

[unsorted]

Would anyone know what size downstems the FC Mod takes? Was looking for other 3rd party options and Im hoping the sizing is something standard like 28.8mm.

I just measured mine with calipers. At the top of the taper on the stem, it measures 28.73mm

 

[babaganush]

I just measured mine with calipers. At the top of the taper on the stem, it measures 28.73mm

Awesome, thank you for that!

 

[Whissmu]

I have so many set-up's?
SMALL BUBBLER reduced mouthpiece + ASH COLLECTOR + GOD"S GIFT (VERY TIGHT) = CIVILIZED MEDICATION (VERY OLD BUT FUNCTIONAL)

thanks you!! now I know how to take advantage of that broken stem of my nano!

thank you, brother of the sea!

I just found something interesting.
I received a glass order, I bought the new "uncivilized" mouthpiece, the CloudBuddy and a FC Rattle Can from Steven.
A little disappointed by all this (I was hoping the same mouthpiece base on the FC Mod, but just with the different angle, it is thinner in diameter, aka a bit more civilized, and the RattleCan is good but nothing more).. I was looking at these "cloud buddy" adapters and wondering why I bought them because I already have too many adapters that do the same trick.
When suddenly I realized that they were almost identical to the bowl of my herborizer, but the grid was impossible to hold in place. I pulled out an Arizer basket screen (one of the most useful accessories in this vapeworld), and it works perfectly !! I think it can be useful for different vapes.
Now I have my bowl and my carb on the same piece (but I already broke one of the two plug)..

The good thing is that the mouthpiece can be used as a steamroller/vape pipe

Nice construction @ataxian
SOrt of Tour Eiffel thing.

great that pieces!
can provide a link for shipping to Europe! I only see very high prices to get one in Europe
thank you

 

[ataxian]

thanks you!! now I know how to take advantage of that broken stem of my nano!

thank you, brother of the sea!



great that pieces!
can provide a link for shipping to Europe! I only see very high prices to get one in Europe
thank you

Wg

thanks you!! now I know how to take advantage of that broken stem of my nano!

thank you, brother of the sea!



great that pieces!
can provide a link for shipping to Europe! I only see very high prices to get one in Europe
thank you

STONED MEDICATED MAX FLIGHT MULTI-VERSE EXPLORE LIFE

 

[MegaMan2k]

Hey guys lots of good information in here, inspired me to get my first piece off dhgate;

I have one question tho : Do you clean your new pieces like very thoroughly before first time use?

I feel that i get sorta sticky/stiff lips after hitting it, I am not sure if i am just over thinking things here...