Dynavap VapCap

[SloJimFizz]

Enjoying some CBD God Bud in my Ti OmniVap tonight. What’s everyone else puffin’ on right now? Every time I use this thing I’m amazed... .

Glad you and so many others are enjoying their new Dynavap goods.
Doing a Sunday eye opener of some Cherry Pie in my @phattpiggie Ti Koa then relearning some Christmas tunes.

 

[Ricardo]

T-Break over - OmniVap still works like a champ

 

[Helios]

Enjoying some CBD God Bud in my Ti OmniVap tonight. What’s everyone else puffin’ on right now? Every time I use this thing I’m amazed... and to think I went from a Firefly to a Devinci IQ before I found this. Choose some specific temperature, wait a minute, puff puff puff, use more than I intended to, get half as lifted..... never again. 10 seconds, half the bud, full extraction, back to enjoying whatever it was I was doing. I could buy myself another Omni for the $$$ I’m gonna save on flower. I have FC to thank for such great recommendations.

likewise, enjoying some GSC, prepping some French toast, poached eggs and perhaps a glass or two of prosecco cocktails for the lady and myself.

 

[Squiby]

I have decided that I must have a stash of some kind for my new Omni XL, but my cheapness reigns, so I am looking for something more inexpensive than our traditional sources (DV, PP, WG, and Ed).......Anyone have any other ideas? I WOULD like to carry herb along with the VC or just the tube would do.

I have come to use several stashes all for different purposes.

I'm still loving my Dynastash/ERs, but I tend to keep them in the house or when working about in the garage.

My @Ratchett Vapcap pouch is my out and about stash of choice. The leather is soft and supple and it holds an XL Vapcap, lighter and doob tube for your stash. Perfect for a weekend away.

I found this fantastic little keychain pouch. It's cheap. It has a clip so I can attach it to a beltloop. It closes with a solid zipper so everything is super secure and it is the perfect size for a regular length Vapcap, small lighter and small amount of bud stuffed into a concentrate container or extra loaded tips. Oh, and it has an attached chain and ring to hold my house key. Perfect. This is my go to for hiking in the woods.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Le...fce:m:mTmuECoQ9oYybPx_iwZ-OPg&redirect=mobile

I'll be using it today...my neighbour has 350 acres next to me and we are going Xmas tree hunting this afternoon. It's a perfect calm mild day with a dusting of snow on the ground.

 

[StringTheorista]

Malawi Gold and Earl Grey tea. Ah.....

 

[hinglemccringleberry]

I needed something smellproof so I went with a case similar to this:

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Randys-Hemp-...503493?hash=item239370e005:g:mWYAAOSwiBJZ~fLb


And then theres this- i need to design a version of this case that has an herb compartment built into the side of it and isnt cheap chinese crap

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Automatic-Cigarette-Case-With-Inbuilt-Windproof-Lighter-Black-Metal-Box-Holder/332380746835?_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIM.MBE&ao=2&asc=20171010182013&meid=45169edba0b649d9a657781471ce2124&pid=100890&rk=10&rkt=12&sd=162145152772&_trksid=p2056116.c100890.m2460

 

[cybrguy]

There are XL Dynastash's in Wenge at the DV site now.

Yes there are and they are nice. Not as pretty (to me) as the Bocote but nice. However, they are not 20% off with free shipping and that was a qualifying factor. That was also the qualifying factor for the Omni XL which DID yank my trigger finger. My finger just got tired, that's all...

 

[CuckFumbustion]

I have come to use several stashes all for different purposes.

Indeed. there are setups that I plan on having for say 3 day camping or just kicking around town.

And then theres this- i need to design a version of this case that has an herb compartment built into the side of it and isnt cheap chinese crap

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Automatic-Cigarette-Case-With-Inbuilt-Windproof-Lighter-Black-Metal-Box-Holder/332380746835?_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIM.MBE&ao=2&asc=20171010182013&meid=45169edba0b649d9a657781471ce2124&pid=100890&rk=10&rkt=12&sd=162145152772&_trksid=p2056116.c100890.m2460

It made me think of a magazine filled of 'M's. Imagine some setup like that but with an interchangeable lighter. Like you can slip a V2 vertigo inside that package. Since we all are dreaming up ideas here....

Other design ideas I'd like to borrow from.
3 IN 1 PIPE SET LIGHTER,PIPE AND STASH ALL IN ONE W/ 5 SCREENS! PERFECT GIFT! | eBay
Now imagine that with a way of heating the VC and having the functionality of being able to turn the VC .
Ooze Orange Roll-N-Go Refillable Lighter - Secret Smell Proof Compartment *NEW* | eBay
Smell proof design, but probably he wrong size for an 'M' and not a proper butane lighter.

That little glass piece is an ecig bubbler that fits the vapcaps well with the silicone adapter (note: it does not fit vongs directly):

Like the ecig bubbler being protected.
I got the narrow green version tightpac of this. An extra tip fits in the top part of the pen.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/4uUAAOSwYIxYB3Ct/s-l1600.jpg

 

[Summer]

@VapCap has agreed to do a limited edition run of the ti 7-fin, 4th gen. tip (possibly updated). Please refer to the specifics HERE.

Note, that every several pages, I will bump this up to be sure everyone sees it as some members don't check in for a couple of weeks at a time & may not back-read.

 

[cybrguy]

I'm not sure I understand what people don't like about the new tip. I have only had one for a short while but I haven't noticed anything wrong or any downside to the lower mass compared to the gen4 tip. Is it about holding heat? Is it the way it looks?

 

[Squiby]

@cybrguy

I think it is simply the aesthetic appeal.

I prefer the 4th gen 7 fin tips better than the 5th gen 5 fin tips. Not because one performs better than the other, but because the 7 fins tips are more visually appealing to me

 

[stark1]

Kinda like the difference of seeing someone, looking away from you;
or the person looking into your eyes, with
a loving smile...

More Gen 4, please

 

[cybrguy]

Ok, you guys are on drugs...



No, really, I can see it as a little more elegant looking.

The only practical difference I have noticed is that when twist loading in ground goods I get more stuck in the fins with gen4 which adds another step sometimes.

Other than that it's six of one...

 

[hinglemccringleberry]

I'm not sure I understand what people don't like about the new tip. I have only had one for a short while but I haven't noticed anything wrong or any downside to the lower mass compared to the gen4 tip. Is it about holding heat? Is it the way it looks?

One poster a few pages back who has used both tips said something about the vapor from the 7 fin tips being slightly denser/more potent than the 5 fin (or something to that effect) with the tradeoff being that the 5 fin tip reaches hot and cooldown temps faster.

 

[cybrguy]

I have been looking for differences like that and I haven't yet noticed them, but it's only been a few days. I will continue to watch for them. I will be a little surprised if I see them but I will keep an open mind. And I'm sure that my looking for these things while buzzed won't influence my success or failure...

 

[pxl_jockey]

@Summer Thank you for doing the legwork and approaching George about this Summer. I'd just accepted a 7-fin wasn't meant for the likes of me, and you and your gumption have made me very happy tonight. But I think you're wrong to bump it so that everyone has a chance to see. My view is if they aren't here once every other day and catching up compulsively then do they really deserve a 7-fin tip?! No, I say!

@cybrguy I don't think anything is wrong with the 5-fin but that's all I know, both ti & ss; but our fellow members with more VC experience love the 7-fin. I think it mostly has to be looks, George is too smart to make a design change if he didn't believe it made sense. It's not cheaper, they're just removing more material right? But people who I think know stuff have said there's just something about the 7-fin, so...... I want one, furthermore I have committed to one because they do look cool and I may never get another chance at 7-fin heaven. So what are your thoughts and what gens do you have? Mrs. p_j isn't going to understand why I need this and worse, I won't be able to mount an intelligent argument for yet more VapCap kit. She's starting to think I'm obsessed. No comment.

@SloJimFizz Woah, that picture just took my breath away. @phatpiggie really outdid himself on that piece, though he's been doing a lot of that lately. Beautiful subject matter but nice photography skills as well!

Been a low energy weekend for me and I've not been online much but I've enjoyed the case/stash discussion here. Oh we did manage to decorate the tree this evening and had a surprise snow this morning so it really was beginning to feel like Christmas. We rarely get snow in December and when it melts all the grass is still green. I'm always dreaming of a Green Christmas! Hey, that should be a holidaze song!

Thought of @Squiby doing a 350-acre grid search for her tree, and I wondered is it more difficult with a torch lighter when temperatures are below freezing and you've got some elevation? Anyone with the experience/knowledge can pipe up. I'm curious since I'm at sea level and rarely below freezing for long.

Anyway, wherever on the big blue marble you are, I hope you have a Green like-a-DV-package Christmas!

EDIT: I see @cybrguy put his opinion out there: 6 of 1 v half dozen

 

[Dustydurban]

To all Fin lovers out there:
I am a multi gererational fin and tip lover
all fins are good fin they all work well
some fins are better than other fins? or is it just me?
pick a fin and love it
I wish I could tell you which fin to love
Maybe ask someone from Finland
Really come on now.... Can I love one fin more than another ?
Like my kids I love them all for alot of different reasons
But my baby.......she the.........................................

 

[cybrguy]

@cybrguy I don't think anything is wrong with the 5-fin but that's all I know, both ti & ss; but our fellow members with more VC experience love the 7-fin. I think it mostly has to be looks, George is too smart to make a design change if he didn't believe it made sense. It's not cheaper, they're just removing more material right? But people who I think know stuff have said there's just something about the 7-fin, so...... I want one,

So here is the thing. There are all kinds of reasons George might have changed the tip design that have nothing to DO with performance. The gen5 might be less stressful on his equipment or have fewer failures due to the additional space between fins, for example. I am quite certain that George wouldn't make changes that he KNEW would reduce performance in any way, but that does not mean performance 'as a vape' is the only reason things change. And it wouldn't surprise me at all if we had users in here that were more expert IN USING George's designs than George or any of his crew just due to the amount of time they can (and some do) spend using it.

So it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that George gets help and idea from US, and might find out about a performance "trend" from our complaints/suggestions. My suggestion that _I_ haven't seen much difference in performance between gen4 and 5 is just 1 data point.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

7 fins means more surface area to heat? Newer tips less metal/mass to heat up? I could see it being about the same unless you refine your method that suits the tip more.

I feel like I understand the dif more between the Ti and the SS a little more. And the looseness of one cap I have.

The charts @Stu posted kind of confirmed what I felt beforehand was the dif and his points. Ti heats up and cools down quicker, SS stores heat longer and clicks heats a little later. What I got out of all that? what tip is suited for what body and I changed my draw style for both tips.

Been a low energy weekend for me and I've not been online much but I've enjoyed the case/stash discussion here

Yea, Same here. Lots of ideas. Already looking in my junk drawer for a plug for the arriving 3D printed case.

Fess Telescoping 3 Cigar Crush proof Smell Proof Odor Resistant Airtight Travel | eBay
This was a camera case when I bought it 6 months ago. Didn't have smell-proof in the description either.
Pax1, 2, 3 Kandy, WULF Vape Hard Carry Case Shock Smell Proof Travel Case Holder | eBay

Well I do have glass, I'd like to carry.

So here is the thing. There are all kinds of reasons George might have changed the tip design that have nothing to DO with performance.

There weren't machined in house at first. Right? When did he do it in house compared to tips being made, BTW? But,yes on all your points. What is best for the milling process. tweaks in design, feedback from customers.
There are some devotees here that could give us some sort of timeline for the changes of tip design.

Now would I still want a 7 fin? Is it more of a particle magnet or a crumb catcher ?

 

[Dustydurban]

I'm not scientific by any means:
I have all but gen 1 tips & caps
I really can't tell much difference if any at all;
blindfolded, I don't think I could tell you which was which

 

[pxl_jockey]

So here is the thing. There are all kinds of reasons George might have changed the tip design that have nothing to DO with performance. The gen5 might be less stressful on his equipment or have fewer failures due to the additional space between fins, for example. I am quite certain that George wouldn't make changes that he KNEW would reduce performance in any way, but that does not mean performance 'as a vape' is the only reason things change. And it wouldn't surprise me at all if we had users in here that were more expert IN USING George's designs than George or any of his crew just due to the amount of time they can (and some do) spend using it.

So it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that George gets help and idea from US, and might find out about a performance "trend" from our complaints/suggestions. My suggestion that _I_ haven't seen much difference in performance between gen4 and 5 is just 1 data point.

You're freaking awesome! Very good points and well made, that's why I love the folks in this thread. Thank you for taking the time to explain how other reasons beyond the vape itself can impact design decisions. I hadn't considered the overall "George has got a business to run" aspect though, all those factors. Cheers!

 

[babaganush]

Do you mind linking to that case?

https://m.ebay.com/itm/EGO-BLACK-ZI...-SIZEs-FREE-SHIPPING/162740496903?_mwBanner=1

 

[olivianewtonjohn]

What do the dyna experts think?

http://www.puffitup.com/The-Scope-14mm-H2O-Mouthpiece-p/qctq.14mm-f_bubb-bla.htm

Good pairing, yay or nay? I havent used a hydrotube with the dyna but generally like hydrotubes

 

[Winegums]

Wow, I had no idea that the Gen 4 mystique was so great. My reason for wanting another is that I like the performance and I'm used to the mass of the tip. No need to rock the boat, especially after having used the same two tips for many months.

 

[Summer]

@cybrguy, here are some of the good things that have been said about the gen 4, & this is why I've been lusting after it. And, yes, @Winegums, there's definitely a mystique about it. I'm totally siked about landing this tip. And, of course, there's a vcaas (vapcap accessory aquisition syndrome) emotional component to it, too.

This was posted on the tip waitlist thread & made me laugh because it's also why ordered 2 :

I’ve never even tried a 7 fin, but I don’t want to miss out. So if they live up to the hype, then at least I will have two.

My POV is that the 7 finned ,4th generation tip is -or rather was -the best tip ever.

4th gen / 7 fin Ti tip vs 5th gen / 5 fin Ti tip : A personal experience

The new Ti tip ( 5th gen ) has 20% less mass than the 4th gen tip.
That means that it has 20% less thermal capacitance ,also.
In practice the 5th gen tip is 20% faster than the 4th gen tip.
Quite small difference ,but with the use of different length Ti stems ,
it kinda makes a "statement" to a keen and experienced VC user.

4th gen Ti tip + 62 mm standard length stem : Quite a lot of vapor production,
with full "body" vapor .Somewhat hot also,with the aroma & taste being subdued.

4th gen Ti tip + 79 mm XL length stem : A perfect combination !
Lots of vapor production ,the body of the vapor is there,the taste & aroma also there
and the temperature of the vapor is just as it has to be.

5th gen Ti tip + 62 mm standard length stem : It's my second favourite option.
It's like the above combo,just with a bit more taste & aroma somewhat,but the vapor
also being a bit hotter with less body .

5th gen Ti tip + 79 mm XL length stem : A good combo for resin,oil,wax ,etc.
With this combo ,going a bit past the click will quickly increase the chamber temperature
to the extraction point ,but also will quickly start decreasing thus not allowing for mishappens.
The vapor is quite cool ,at least for the high temps involved .
Reminds of dabbing.
If used with herb ,this combo is the best option for aroma & taste (respecting the click ,this time),but the vapor lacks a heavy body .Very cool and aromatic vapor ,but rather " light bodied ".
Ideal for those with sensitive respiratory system.

7 fins dissipate heat better.

The spiral grooves are a bit deeper in the 4th Gen, permitting less restrictive airflow.

I have been experimenting with my new gen omni after many happy months of using my older 7 fin onmi. I think that for me...the heating profile of the two tips is very different. I use a single flame torch. I heat the tip to click, then move down to the middle to click and finally heat the base to click. With the older tip, I can extract good amounts of thc without combusting. With the new 5 fin, if I do the same routine, I often combust at the last session at the base. I love my omni's, the older one more than the newer one.

Here's the description that goes along with these 2 @phattpiggie's pics that have now been posted several times:
pp said, "here's the Ti I have, left to right.
First gen, 8mm bowl. Second, 8.6mm and 2 extra fins all deeper both outsourced. Third, 8.7mm adjustabowl, left hand rifling. Fourth, 8.7mm adjustabowl, right hand rifled, both made in house.
I know there have been a few tweaks as manufacturing has gone on so there may well be other versions of the tips."

And here's what @Winegums said about the gen 4 tip, so maybe you can see what he references in these pics, too.

The key differences are the air channels, O-ring retention grooves, and the CCD retention system. Then there's little things that you can't see as easily like differences in the O-ring groove diameters, diameter of the bottom lip, chamber wall thickness and chamfered edges on the Gen 4.

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As @Squiby, @Winegums & others have said, there's definitely the aesthetic aspect. Visually it is much more interesting & appealing.
Here's a really well-lit pic previously posted by @paehtod.