Best cartridges for distillate

Hoosier

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Decarbed specifically to test these tanks out of curiosity. Used second-run QWET after using first-run for shatter. Purged and decarbed at the same time in an oil bath. Could be a good use for second-run QWET if it works.

And .025 of the decarbbed product dabbed on a clean nail produces a desired dose? What I'm getting at is .3ml of a quality mix from the vape710 or the trinity should be tasty as hell and have you zooted
 
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What I'm getting at is .3ml of a quality mix from the vape710 or the trinity should be tasty as hell and have you zooted

Exactly - even 0.3mls of a mediocre mix should produce something. Watched the level in the tanks drop with hit after hit, but felt only negligible effects at best.

No explanation at this point, just wondering if any others have had similar experiences with these tanks.
 
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I can get distillate in a jar for about $20, but the distillate carts are atleast $40/g around me, so I've been looking for some I can fill myself, I'd also be able to use a bigger tank for a mod if there's one that works well. I'd like to avoid layg, with distillate that gets messy. Reddit reccomeded the maxvapr v2, vape 710 v2.1, or ccell carts, thanks for any advice!

I've had some GOOOD results recently with the VAPORESSO DRIZZLE which I think deserves more love. Replaceable 1.4 res Ceramic coil heads even! (I'm not interested in the whole 'Sub Ohm' thing)
I use the tank on a mod at 6W / 3V or thereabouts (9W - 14W recommended)
I use a 1g/0.7ml BHO/Wax Liquidizer ratio (an indica strain).

https://www.vaporesso.com/vape-atomizers-vape-tanks-drizzle-vape-tank

https://www.vaporesso.com/vape-kits-drizzle-vape-kit

https://www.vapeclub.co.uk/vape-kits-with-integrated-batteries/vaporesso-drizzle-kit.html
 
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invertedisdead

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I've had some GOOOD results recently with the VAPORESSO DRIZZLE which I think deserves more love. Replaceable 1.4 res Ceramic coil heads even! (I'm not interested in the whole 'Sub Ohm' thing)
I use the tank on a mod at 6W / 3V or thereabouts (9W - 14W recommended)
I use a 1g/0.7ml BHO/Wax Liquidizer ratio (an indica strain).

https://www.vaporesso.com/vape-atomizers-vape-tanks-drizzle-vape-tank

https://www.vaporesso.com/vape-kits-drizzle-vape-kit

https://www.vapeclub.co.uk/vape-kits-with-integrated-batteries/vaporesso-drizzle-kit.html

How long are coils lasting you? Been curious about trying a ccell type atomizer with concentrates. This and the NRG Mini look interesting.
 

elmoe420

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So you still don't know about the vaporesso veco, smok x-TFV8 x-baby w/ RBA coil, and the cubis pro mini, and so many more tanks that can sub-ohm, TC, and also be fitted with ceramic coil heads of some sort? (and also not leak!)

Or are you just arbitrarily limiting your comments to cover smaller sized, small diameter, around ~1ml tanks specifically intended for cannabis concentrates and not talking about e-cig style RTAs that are around 2ml and larger without saying that? Because I'm nearly falling down, tripping, stumbling across all these new e-cig tanks that also work great for cannabis concentrates. 2-3 years ago, there were very few tanks that can TC, not leak, and could have ceramic heaters, now there are many. With co2 oil and distillate on the tanks I've mentioned, it's not even really necessary to dilute your concentrate with terpenes, PEG, etc because there's sufficient room and airflow and wicking holes for the oil to move.

You tend to use mods, not unregulated pens, right? So I figure this would be right up your alley?

Little 1ml sized tanks look quite odd and conspicuous :uhh: with a mod, even on tiny mods like an evic basic. Almost nobody uses that type of gear to vape nic juice these days, it's all RTA/RDA.

For me, the bottom airflow and leak-prone design disqualify the vape710 & trinity tanks, although the flavor & vapor from the sub-ohm ceramic wick is probably nice. I'm pretty sure the extra airflow and wicking potential of some of the RTAs I mentioned easily put the trinity to shame in the field of TC cloud production with similar vapor quality, with the potential trade-off of spitting possibility in some cases.





I think more mods made in 2016/2017 stopped including the vented 510 connector because the kind of tanks and RDAs that people actually use with mods today have pretty much stopped using bottom airflow through the 510 connector because it is so inherently leak prone and a poor design feature. Leaking juice through the 510 pin can foul mods to the point of destroying them with prolonged use/leaking.

Only leaky little tanks that are intended for cannabis oils use bottom-510 threaded air flow these days, and although most RTAs still use bottom-airflow, it is now separated from the 510 connector through a separate bottom air throttle / coil assembly, so your oil or e-juice eventually floods / leaks internally into a metal coil/air assembly, not into the mod itself.

The whole market for e-cig RTAs, and even the far-inferior-quality type of tanks for concentrates that the industry has forced upon us for so long is slowly transitioning to top-airflow because it is so much less prone to leaking, and that's long overdue and welcome, IMO. :2c: Leaking e-juice is an annoyance, pennies at a time, leaking cannabis concentrate from a tank is a small tragedy, shedding dollars at a time. :cry:

Unacceptable. You'd don't have to accept leakage, people. Use top-air.

So far I have tried the Gen 1+2 Vape710 carts, MaxVapor carts and the W9 Trinity. This is what I was comparing in my post above.

My experience with eCig tanks is about 3+ years dated now. Back then ceramic coils weren't really a big thing and I could never find any tank that would work well with thick CO2 oil. Honestly finding an eCig tank coil that could even vape 100% pure VG was a challenge back then due to it's viscosity.

For the three eCig tanks you list, which specific coils are you using for distillate? I've seen your Cubis Pro DIY mod guide before (very cool). Are you building something similar inside the Smoke tank RBA?

The Veco seems like the only one of the three that has a ceramic coil you could use without needing modifications? Definitely interested to try this if you can link me to which specific one to pick up.

Also I will give a big +1 to top airflow designs with a sealed bottom deck. Gravity is not our friend! That being said, still no leaks with the Trinity tank for me despite the bottom airflow design.
 

Vape Donkey 650

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So the veto and cubits pro mini can be used with uncut dissalate out the box or you're using a different coil? How do you set up the baby beast rba for dissalate? I currently use the tfv8 baby beast m2 coils for my ejuice mixes but a big tank for dissalate instead of the little fairly obvious tanks would be nice

Yes, the veco can be used with fairly thick oils, but one drawback I've found with it is that it leaves alot of oil, about 0.3g or ~0.25ml stuck around the sides of the tank that won't get to the atomizer when the tank is low. Not a problem if you keep on refilling, or if your mix is very viscous, like some very terpene-lubricated distillate. You get the advantage of cheap, pre-made ccells, TC, and the easiest coil-changing compared to any other tank I've seen. You can swap coils without emptying the tank or getting your fingers sticky or leaking out.

The cubis pro mini doesn't have pre-made ceramic coils, and only one of their pre-made coils, the "notchcoils" have sufficient wicking slots to work with thick, uncut concentrates. I'm not a fan of metal coils and cotton wicks, however, so I've modified many of the regular coils with ceramic donuts, ceramic wick and extra wicking holes, and they work great for smooth ceramic flavor, rapid-repeat clouds, efficiency, and leak-proof too. You can read about that and much more on this thead.

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C1yutmi.jpg
BBqyQQ6.jpg


As for the smok RBA coil, I'm using the one for the "x-baby" tank which is slightly different from your baby beast in the way it has top-airflow like the cubis and veco tank. I've watched smok's tanks for a long time and waited and passed on them until they finally made top air so I don't have to worry about leaks, and the x-baby finally did that. They also have a similar RBA coil for the baby beast to make your own TC ceramic coil, if you've had success avoiding leaks with that tank so far, but I'd expect it as an eventuality with bottom-air. :(

The "default" (not RBA) coils for the smok tanks are all with kanthal wires and cotton wick, and won't TC on most mods, from what I can gather too? (So more reason to avoid for me)

So far I have tried the Gen 1+2 Vape710 carts, MaxVapor carts and the W9 Trinity. This is what I was comparing in my post above.

My experience with eCig tanks is about 3+ years dated now. Back then ceramic coils weren't really a big thing and I could never find any tank that would work well with thick CO2 oil. Honestly finding an eCig tank coil that could even vape 100% pure VG was a challenge back then due to it's viscosity.

For the three eCig tanks you list, which specific coils are you using for distillate? I've seen your Cubis Pro DIY mod guide before (very cool). Are you building something similar inside the Smoke tank RBA?

The Veco seems like the only one of the three that has a ceramic coil you could use without needing modifications? Definitely interested to try this if you can link me to which specific one to pick up.

Also I will give a big +1 to top airflow designs with a sealed bottom deck. Gravity is not our friend! That being said, still no leaks with the Trinity tank for me despite the bottom airflow design.

I've been watching these e-cig tanks for a while now too, and I've tried a few of them with concentrates and had some various setbacks and failures, so finding success with some of these tanks I've mentioned has been quite satisfying :nod:

Just randomly, the smok x-baby RBA coil with the dual 10mm donuts is the only one I've set up with a really thick, minimally cut distillate so far. I've worked with co2 oil much more before this one, and just recently got into distillates. I have a couple of cubis mini tanks set up with dual 5mm donuts running some thinner-cut, less viscous distillates and those rip some chunky clouds as well, although I don't favor that type of distillate as much. I have no doubt the donut-mod cubis would work just as well with thicker distillates too, and I plan to cycle over to some when I finish vaping down what I have currently loaded on the tanks.

The veco (or some of the other vaporesso tanks) would be the one to go for if you want ready-to-go ceramic coils that won't leak on you, although that line of tanks uses the generic, porous silica "cCells" not the alumina ceramic donuts that I use in my builds, or the silicon carbide wick w/ Ti metal wire heater like in the trinity.

ceramic-heating-wire-for-rba-rda-rta-rebuildable-atomizer-white-05-ohm-10-pcs.jpg


Generically, ccells are ok, much better than bare cotton+wire, but I think alumina donuts or a SiC wick can provide much better, smooth flavor and coil longevity. :2c:

And for sure top air FTW! That's great that you've avoided any leaks so far on your trinity, @elmoe420, but I've seen a few other people over here getting minor leakage with them. It seems like it's only a matter of time to have oil leak out through bottom threads on a filled tank with bottom air intake. :cry:

I've had some GOOOD results recently with the VAPORESSO DRIZZLE which I think deserves more love. Replaceable 1.4 res Ceramic coil heads even! (I'm not interested in the whole 'Sub Ohm' thing)
I use the tank on a mod at 6W / 3V or thereabouts (9W - 14W recommended)
I use a 1g/0.7ml BHO/Wax Liquidizer ratio (an indica strain).

https://www.vaporesso.com/vape-atomizers-vape-tanks-drizzle-vape-tank

https://www.vaporesso.com/vape-kits-drizzle-vape-kit

https://www.vapeclub.co.uk/vape-kits-with-integrated-batteries/vaporesso-drizzle-kit.html

Hey, that's great you've had success with this tank too. Just because you don't want to use TC or a box mod, doesn't mean you have to be forced to use a smaller sized tank with less features and the necessary compromises that come with it.

With the drizzle, you still get the ccells that are easy to change, and the leak-resistant top airflow design, like the veco. :tup: Seems like a good pick for a mech-mod and you can probably get good results if you pulse the button and don't hold it down for to long to avoid over-heating the coil.

Another similar tank for these purposes that some FC people like is the liberty V9 for a smaller sized ccell with top-air and filling. They're 1.2 ohm also, so theoretically they might be able to TC, but I'm not sure on that, I have a few of these on the way to me so I'll find out soon.

With decarbed oil and 5% terps, the Vape710 delivered bigger hits than the Trinity. In each case, vaped ~0.3 mls oil in one session, desperately hoping for effects that never happened.

Don't understand it. Try one of the ccell tanks or just give up on these little concentrate tanks?

Yes, because concentrate is more fluid when it's decarbed. Distillate and CO2 oil are decarbed as part of the extraction process. Actually, first try with the Trinity tank was not decarbed. Same lack of effects, but at the time, chalked it up to the mix being too thick. Don't know what's going on now.

Not using distillate - should have been clear. This is QWET from homegrown Cream Caramel, no lab analysis. Still, 0.025g of this material is a typical dab dose. Ten times that in either of these cartridges produced negligible effects on three tries total. Doesn't seem to make sense.

Would LOVE to try distilling, BTW, but it requires an enormous volume of starting material.

Wow, so you vape about a quarter-gram of lightly terpenated concentrate you made in a single session, and you feel no effect? :huh::mental: What's all that about?:science: So don't have lab tests, but we figure your qwet is at least 50-60% cannabinoids. You're body is taking in at least 100-120mg, in a method that should be highly bio-active. And no effects?

What type of battery / mod and settings where you using? You were getting adequately sized, visible, voluminous clouds of vapor too? :hmm: Like how many puffs, I figure a few dozen at least? If nothing strange is going on, maybe it's just your tolerance is too high from conducting all these experiments for us haha :spliff::leaf:

But one thing I can think of is maybe alot of the oil was wasted by spitting / clogging by having power / temp settings too low, or by puffing too hard? That happened to me one time when I over-filled a 5mm donut cubis mini tank with runny distillate at a temp setting too low - I spitted / sucked up probably 200mg before I corrected my air throttle and temp settings. :bang:
 
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420democrat

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Yes, the veco can be used with fairly thick oils, but one drawback I've found with it is that it leaves alot of oil, about 0.3g or ~0.25ml stuck around the sides of the tank that won't get to the atomizer when the tank is low. Not a problem if you keep on refilling, or if your mix is very viscous, like some very terpene-lubricated distillate. You get the advantage of cheap, pre-made ccells, TC, and the easiest coil-changing compared to any other tank I've seen. You can swap coils without emptying the tank or getting your fingers sticky or leaking out.

The cubis pro mini doesn't have pre-made ceramic coils, and only one of their pre-made coils, the "notchcoils" have sufficient wicking slots to work with thick, uncut concentrates. I'm not a fan of metal coils and cotton wicks, however, so I've modified many of the regular coils with ceramic donuts, ceramic wick and extra wicking holes, and they work great for smooth ceramic flavor, rapid-repeat clouds, efficiency, and leak-proof too. You can read about that and much more on this thead.

o8fCxXE.jpg
GzjcWAA.jpg



C1yutmi.jpg
BBqyQQ6.jpg


As for the smok RBA coil, I'm using the one for the "x-baby" tank which is slightly different from your baby beast in the way it has top-airflow like the cubis and veco tank. I've watched smok's tanks for a long time and waited and passed on them until they finally made top air so I don't have to worry about leaks, and the x-baby finally did that. They also have a similar RBA coil for the baby beast to make your own TC ceramic coil, if you've had success avoiding leaks with that tank so far, but I'd expect it as an eventuality with bottom-air. :(

The "default" (not RBA) coils for the smok tanks are all with kanthal wires and cotton wick, and won't TC on most mods, from what I can gather too? (So more reason to avoid for me)



I've been watching these e-cig tanks for a while now too, and I've tried a few of them with concentrates and had some various setbacks and failures, so finding success with some of these tanks I've mentioned has been quite satisfying :nod:

Just randomly, the smok x-baby RBA coil with the dual 10mm donuts is the only one I've set up with a really thick, minimally cut distillate so far. I've worked with co2 oil much more before this one, and just recently got into distillates. I have a couple of cubis mini tanks set up with dual 5mm donuts running some thinner-cut, less viscous distillates and those rip some chunky clouds as well, although I don't favor that type of distillate as much. I have no doubt the donut-mod cubis would work just as well with thicker distillates too, and I plan to cycle over to some when I finish vaping down what I have currently loaded on the tanks.

The veco (or some of the other vaporesso tanks) would be the one to go for if you want ready-to-go ceramic coils that won't leak on you, although that line of tanks uses the generic, porous silica "cCells" not the alumina ceramic donuts that I use in my builds, or the silicon carbide wick w/ Ti metal wire heater like in the trinity.

ceramic-heating-wire-for-rba-rda-rta-rebuildable-atomizer-white-05-ohm-10-pcs.jpg


Generically, ccells are ok, much better than bare cotton+wire, but I think alumina donuts or a SiC wick can provide much better, smooth flavor and coil longevity. :2c:

And for sure top air FTW! That's great that you've avoided any leaks so far on your trinity, @elmoe420, but I've seen a few other people over here getting minor leakage with them. It seems like it's only a matter of time to have oil leak out through bottom threads on a filled tank with bottom air intake. :cry:



Hey, that's great you've had success with this tank too. Just because you don't want to use TC or a box mod, doesn't mean you have to be forced to use a smaller sized tank with less features and the necessary compromises that come with it.

With the drizzle, you still get the ccells that are easy to change, and the leak-resistant top airflow design, like the veco. :tup: Seems like a good pick for a mech-mod and you can probably get good results if you pulse the button and don't hold it down for to long to avoid over-heating the coil.

Another similar tank for these purposes that some FC people like is the liberty V9 for a smaller sized ccell with top-air and filling. They're 1.2 ohm also, so theoretically they might be able to TC, but I'm not sure on that, I have a few of these on the way to me so I'll find out soon.







Wow, so you vape about a quarter-gram of lightly terpenated concentrate you made in a single session, and you feel no effect? :huh::mental: What's all that about?:science: So don't have lab tests, but we figure your qwet is at least 50-60% cannabinoids. You're body is taking in at least 100-120mg, in a method that should be highly bio-active. And no effects?

What type of battery / mod and settings where you using? You were getting adequately sized, visible, voluminous clouds of vapor too? :hmm: Like how many puffs, I figure a few dozen at least? If nothing strange is going on, maybe it's just your tolerance is too high from conducting all these experiments for us haha :spliff::leaf:

But one thing I can think of is maybe alot of the oil was wasted by spitting / clogging by having power / temp settings too low, or by puffing too hard? That happened to me one time when I over-filled a 5mm donut cubis mini tank with runny distillate at a temp setting too low - I spitted / sucked up probably 200mg before I corrected my air throttle and temp settings. :bang:
Wow you're way more into it than I, I'm currently just getting my feet wet I just have pretty much everything since I run a smoke shop... I'm not sure I'm ready to build my own coils yet but I'm certainly gonna dig up a veco tank and try it with my dissalate and ejuice
The leaking on the smok has been driving me crazy even closing the air when not in use it leaks and the top opens far too easily in the pocket I have a lot of my current juice but I don't like wasting considering my tanks last 3-4 weeks before needing to think about a refill
Lately I empty it at home and refill when I plan on using it I refill it for the day which is also annoying but I only use it out and about and it at the potency I got it at I'm only needing 2-3puffs
I have a lot of uncut no terp dissalate that I preferred terpenes for I just haven't used it much because the carts leave something to be desired even the ones that hit decent

Can theeese tanks do ejuice too? I'm kind of trying to get away from the ejuice because it doesn't exactly taste good and I just prefer the dissalate all around
Although I've been curious about adding terpenes to my shatter batter mix
 
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What type of battery / mod and settings where you using? You were getting adequately sized, visible, voluminous clouds of vapor too? :hmm: Like how many puffs, I figure a few dozen at least? If nothing strange is going on, maybe it's just your tolerance is too high from conducting all these experiments for us haha :spliff::leaf:

But one thing I can think of is maybe alot of the oil was wasted by spitting / clogging by having power / temp settings too low, or by puffing too hard?

Mainly used a box mod at 12W producing sizable clouds as expected, especially with the Vape710. At this point, used to very hard hits from inception coil dabs. Maybe spoiled it for more gentle methods?

Got into this recently because of curiosity over the Trinity tank and cannabis-derived terpenes. Even at 5% terps, hits were pretty harsh. Miss experimenting, but everything's working great with current methods.
Should probably just relax and enjoy. :chill::smug:
 

psychonaut

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A few Amigo V9 Carts questions if anybody can help.


I was wondering, can you actually run these in TC? and if so what temps are good? I have a Pico 45W which I believe has 3 TC options. Which one would be the right one? I've only ever used Wattage control. TC seems a tad complicated. I know its probably not once you get into it. What are the benefits of TC?

Any responses appreciated guys

Anybody know roughly how many refills people are getting from the Amigo V9 carts?
I know there are so many variables affecting how much usage you can get from a coil but I'm hoping to get a long life out of these guys.
I cant fault them so far. Just hope there'll be no leaking or clogging. Gotta say the price via 'High Demand' for a x10 pack does seem pretty reasonable. THANKS HIGH DEMAND!
 
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That's awesome! Impressive little buggers aren't they.

So far yes! I am trying to find the best tanks available for rosin/distillate that can HANDLE elevation changes. Where I live going up and down 3000ft is pretty normal just getting groceries. Any tanks that leak get a big fat thumbs down!
 

elmoe420

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Yes, the veco can be used with fairly thick oils, but one drawback I've found with it is that it leaves alot of oil, about 0.3g or ~0.25ml stuck around the sides of the tank that won't get to the atomizer when the tank is low. Not a problem if you keep on refilling, or if your mix is very viscous, like some very terpene-lubricated distillate. You get the advantage of cheap, pre-made ccells, TC, and the easiest coil-changing compared to any other tank I've seen. You can swap coils without emptying the tank or getting your fingers sticky or leaking out.

The cubis pro mini doesn't have pre-made ceramic coils, and only one of their pre-made coils, the "notchcoils" have sufficient wicking slots to work with thick, uncut concentrates. I'm not a fan of metal coils and cotton wicks, however, so I've modified many of the regular coils with ceramic donuts, ceramic wick and extra wicking holes, and they work great for smooth ceramic flavor, rapid-repeat clouds, efficiency, and leak-proof too. You can read about that and much more on this thead.

o8fCxXE.jpg
GzjcWAA.jpg



C1yutmi.jpg
BBqyQQ6.jpg


As for the smok RBA coil, I'm using the one for the "x-baby" tank which is slightly different from your baby beast in the way it has top-airflow like the cubis and veco tank. I've watched smok's tanks for a long time and waited and passed on them until they finally made top air so I don't have to worry about leaks, and the x-baby finally did that. They also have a similar RBA coil for the baby beast to make your own TC ceramic coil, if you've had success avoiding leaks with that tank so far, but I'd expect it as an eventuality with bottom-air. :(

The "default" (not RBA) coils for the smok tanks are all with kanthal wires and cotton wick, and won't TC on most mods, from what I can gather too? (So more reason to avoid for me)



I've been watching these e-cig tanks for a while now too, and I've tried a few of them with concentrates and had some various setbacks and failures, so finding success with some of these tanks I've mentioned has been quite satisfying :nod:

Just randomly, the smok x-baby RBA coil with the dual 10mm donuts is the only one I've set up with a really thick, minimally cut distillate so far. I've worked with co2 oil much more before this one, and just recently got into distillates. I have a couple of cubis mini tanks set up with dual 5mm donuts running some thinner-cut, less viscous distillates and those rip some chunky clouds as well, although I don't favor that type of distillate as much. I have no doubt the donut-mod cubis would work just as well with thicker distillates too, and I plan to cycle over to some when I finish vaping down what I have currently loaded on the tanks.

The veco (or some of the other vaporesso tanks) would be the one to go for if you want ready-to-go ceramic coils that won't leak on you, although that line of tanks uses the generic, porous silica "cCells" not the alumina ceramic donuts that I use in my builds, or the silicon carbide wick w/ Ti metal wire heater like in the trinity.

ceramic-heating-wire-for-rba-rda-rta-rebuildable-atomizer-white-05-ohm-10-pcs.jpg


Generically, ccells are ok, much better than bare cotton+wire, but I think alumina donuts or a SiC wick can provide much better, smooth flavor and coil longevity. :2c:

And for sure top air FTW! That's great that you've avoided any leaks so far on your trinity, @elmoe420, but I've seen a few other people over here getting minor leakage with them. It seems like it's only a matter of time to have oil leak out through bottom threads on a filled tank with bottom air intake. :cry:



Hey, that's great you've had success with this tank too. Just because you don't want to use TC or a box mod, doesn't mean you have to be forced to use a smaller sized tank with less features and the necessary compromises that come with it.

With the drizzle, you still get the ccells that are easy to change, and the leak-resistant top airflow design, like the veco. :tup: Seems like a good pick for a mech-mod and you can probably get good results if you pulse the button and don't hold it down for to long to avoid over-heating the coil.

Another similar tank for these purposes that some FC people like is the liberty V9 for a smaller sized ccell with top-air and filling. They're 1.2 ohm also, so theoretically they might be able to TC, but I'm not sure on that, I have a few of these on the way to me so I'll find out soon.







Wow, so you vape about a quarter-gram of lightly terpenated concentrate you made in a single session, and you feel no effect? :huh::mental: What's all that about?:science: So don't have lab tests, but we figure your qwet is at least 50-60% cannabinoids. You're body is taking in at least 100-120mg, in a method that should be highly bio-active. And no effects?

What type of battery / mod and settings where you using? You were getting adequately sized, visible, voluminous clouds of vapor too? :hmm: Like how many puffs, I figure a few dozen at least? If nothing strange is going on, maybe it's just your tolerance is too high from conducting all these experiments for us haha :spliff::leaf:

But one thing I can think of is maybe alot of the oil was wasted by spitting / clogging by having power / temp settings too low, or by puffing too hard? That happened to me one time when I over-filled a 5mm donut cubis mini tank with runny distillate at a temp setting too low - I spitted / sucked up probably 200mg before I corrected my air throttle and temp settings. :bang:

Yeah the black SiC wick in the Trinity is definitely a big step up from those old gen silica white ceramics that the Veco uses. I wonder why that type of ceramic is still so popular in the ecig world? Maybe it's just about cost? I was looking at these coils a while back just to put in an RDA build but could only find that kind of ceramic available.

Love your work with readywick and donuts! I still have the instructions you sent me on how to mod the Cubis coils. I just haven't had the time (read: too lazy) to take on a little project work in that space. Honestly I think the Smoke RBA may be an easier platform because it doesn't require drilling holes?
 

Vape Donkey 650

All vape, no smoke please.
Wow you're way more into it than I, I'm currently just getting my feet wet I just have pretty much everything since I run a smoke shop... I'm not sure I'm ready to build my own coils yet but I'm certainly gonna dig up a veco tank and try it with my dissalate and ejuice
The leaking on the smok has been driving me crazy even closing the air when not in use it leaks and the top opens far too easily in the pocket I have a lot of my current juice but I don't like wasting considering my tanks last 3-4 weeks before needing to think about a refill
Lately I empty it at home and refill when I plan on using it I refill it for the day which is also annoying but I only use it out and about and it at the potency I got it at I'm only needing 2-3puffs
I have a lot of uncut no terp dissalate that I preferred terpenes for I just haven't used it much because the carts leave something to be desired even the ones that hit decent

Can theeese tanks do ejuice too? I'm kind of trying to get away from the ejuice because it doesn't exactly taste good and I just prefer the dissalate all around
Although I've been curious about adding terpenes to my shatter batter mix

The veco you may like just for being more leak resistant and the ceramic coils. That sucks how the baby beast leaks out on you.... more anecdotal evidence against bottom-air. :( That doesn't seem convenient if you have to empty it when you get home. The entire line of vaporesso's new bottom-loading EUC coil tanks seem pretty user-friendly and leak-proof, at least the top air ones.

The x-baby RBA is not tough to build with most coil types one would want to build for a tank, and it does comes pre-assembled with dual clapton coils, you just need to insert the provided cotton (or some sort of) wick to get it ready to use. Also very leak-proof. If you're a smoke shop owner, maybe you can use this to justify some new bulk purchases, convince your customers on the merits of new generation of tank gear :cool:

Yeah the black SiC wick in the Trinity is definitely a big step up from those old gen silica white ceramics that the Veco uses. I wonder why that type of ceramic is still so popular in the ecig world? Maybe it's just about cost? I was looking at these coils a while back just to put in an RDA build but could only find that kind of ceramic available.

Love your work with readywick and donuts! I still have the instructions you sent me on how to mod the Cubis coils. I just haven't had the time (read: too lazy) to take on a little project work in that space. Honestly I think the Smoke RBA may be an easier platform because it doesn't require drilling holes?

I think the white silica is more popular for pre-made coils because it's cheap and more available, I'm not sure most e-cig manufacturers are even aware of using SiC for coils?

The X-baby coils are more easy to make work for a thick concentrate than the cubis, yes, and although you can make it work without adding holes, I did manage to swiss-cheese drill one x-baby RBA (and that one does wick better / hit harder too) , but I also ruined 2 other x-RBAs trying to drill holes, so I would advise you not to attempt it since you can get by without it. Plenty of space on the deck of the x-baby RBA makes it easy to work with, almost too much space if you want to use small coils. :shrug:

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The small filling slot on the x-baby is annoying though, it took me forever to fill 3 thick distillate syringes, even with heating them. It was ok filling these less-viscous co2 syringes in this pic, though. The cubis filling slots are bigger but also a bit restrictive. The Veco is the easiest tank I've ever filled.


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Cubis pro mini also forces you to fill through slots, although slightly more generous, with a sharp-angled metal ridge to catch some oil and add some drag on the way down to the tank
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You can remove the entire top assembly from the veco to fill it, you don't have to fill it through a slot. The clear winner in this area.

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Mainly used a box mod at 12W producing sizable clouds as expected, especially with the Vape710. At this point, used to very hard hits from inception coil dabs. Maybe spoiled it for more gentle methods?

Got into this recently because of curiosity over the Trinity tank and cannabis-derived terpenes. Even at 5% terps, hits were pretty harsh. Miss experimenting, but everything's working great with current methods.
Should probably just relax and enjoy. :chill::smug:

Yea i feel you, sometimes I make new tanks and coils just because I thought of a new idea, or because an interesting new tank just came out. I probably have too many tanks and atomizers going at once, sometimes it's good to just kick back and do whatever else you were doing, while you enjoy the fruits of your labor :spliff:

Your last tank fill was harsh from just the 5% terps you think?:o That's how I feel about some of the THClear syringes, but I have no idea how much of the content is terps. :mental: I still gotta try one of those inception coil dabs, but I probably need to find an RDA I can hook up a to an 18mm glass rig, I'll need water on that for sure :whoa:

A few Amigo V9 Carts questions if anybody can help.


I was wondering, can you actually run these in TC? and if so what temps are good? I have a Pico 45W which I believe has 3 TC options. Which one would be the right one? I've only ever used Wattage control. TC seems a tad complicated. I know its probably not once you get into it. What are the benefits of TC?

Any responses appreciated guys

Anybody know roughly how many refills people are getting from the Amigo V9 carts?
I know there are so many variables affecting how much usage you can get from a coil but I'm hoping to get a long life out of these guys.
I cant fault them so far. Just hope there'll be no leaking or clogging. Gotta say the price via 'High Demand' for a x10 pack does seem pretty reasonable. THANKS HIGH DEMAND!

I got a few of these coming in any day, I'll try to see if it can run in TC mode. At 1.2 ohm it's possible?

So far yes! I am trying to find the best tanks available for rosin/distillate that can HANDLE elevation changes. Where I live going up and down 3000ft is pretty normal just getting groceries. Any tanks that leak get a big fat thumbs down!

Your experience with these tanks so far is quite encouraging regarding the lack of leaks. I hope I'll enjoy the vape quality as much. If the liberty tanks with top air can take those elevation changes without leaks (not sure if my cubi would also?) that means that you might even be able to take those on a flight, filled up, and not experience leaks? :hmm:
 
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Your last tank fill was harsh from just the 5% terps you think?:o That's how I feel about some of the THClear syringes, but I have no idea how much of the content is terps. :mental: I still gotta try one of those inception coil dabs, but I probably need to find an RDA I can hook up a to an 18mm glass rig, I'll need water on that for sure :whoa:

A little harsh with the terpenes - not bad, but at this point, rather not use them.

Happy to drop an inception coil in the mail - dying for someone to try. Which of your RDAs has the most build space? Because the dab soaks into the coils, the device can simply be turned upside down so the drip tip can fit into a glass joint directly. It does work best with solids - shatter or wax. Sappy concentrates tend to spatter a bit.
 

mc

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I find even live resin is "too terpy" when used in my DTv3. The terps just blow my face off. I don't get the same effect from a hot banger.

And I also get that "fake" taste from distillate, or really anytime terps are re-introduced. but there's not much coice if you want to run a cart, you have to choose between PG and terps.
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
I find even live resin is "too terpy" when used in my DTv3. The terps just blow my face off. I don't get the same effect from a hot banger.

And I also get that "fake" taste from distillate, or really anytime terps are re-introduced. but there's not much coice if you want to run a cart, you have to choose between PG and terps.

Take some or all of your live resin, put it in a glass jar, and stick under a lamp for a few minutes. This will purge off some of the more harsh volatile terpenes and make it more tolerable.
 

mc

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Take some or all of your live resin, put it in a glass jar, and stick under a lamp for a few minutes. This will purge off some of the more harsh volatile terpenes and make it more tolerable.
Will try this, thanks! I was using it to mix with "lesser" quality rosin from last years flowers. :)
 

420democrat

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The veco you may like just for being more leak resistant and the ceramic coils. That sucks how the baby beast leaks out on you.... more anecdotal evidence against bottom-air. :( That doesn't seem convenient if you have to empty it when you get home. The entire line of vaporesso's new bottom-loading EUC coil tanks seem pretty user-friendly and leak-proof, at least the top air ones.

The x-baby RBA is not tough to build with most coil types one would want to build for a tank, and it does comes pre-assembled with dual clapton coils, you just need to insert the provided cotton (or some sort of) wick to get it ready to use. Also very leak-proof. If you're a smoke shop owner, maybe you can use this to justify some new bulk purchases, convince your customers on the merits of new generation of tank gear :cool:



I think the white silica is more popular for pre-made coils because it's cheap and more available, I'm not sure most e-cig manufacturers are even aware of using SiC for coils?

The X-baby coils are more easy to make work for a thick concentrate than the cubis, yes, and although you can make it work without adding holes, I did manage to swiss-cheese drill one x-baby RBA (and that one does wick better / hit harder too) , but I also ruined 2 other x-RBAs trying to drill holes, so I would advise you not to attempt it since you can get by without it. Plenty of space on the deck of the x-baby RBA makes it easy to work with, almost too much space if you want to use small coils. :shrug:

TJjbJYd.jpg


The small filling slot on the x-baby is annoying though, it took me forever to fill 3 thick distillate syringes, even with heating them. It was ok filling these less-viscous co2 syringes in this pic, though. The cubis filling slots are bigger but also a bit restrictive. The Veco is the easiest tank I've ever filled.


QA8j2Fp.jpg

ZqVeBJw.jpg



Cubis pro mini also forces you to fill through slots, although slightly more generous, with a sharp-angled metal ridge to catch some oil and add some drag on the way down to the tank
IrbPON1.jpg

LaUgRp8.jpg


You can remove the entire top assembly from the veco to fill it, you don't have to fill it through a slot. The clear winner in this area.

FFHZ6EM.jpg





Yea i feel you, sometimes I make new tanks and coils just because I thought of a new idea, or because an interesting new tank just came out. I probably have too many tanks and atomizers going at once, sometimes it's good to just kick back and do whatever else you were doing, while you enjoy the fruits of your labor :spliff:

Your last tank fill was harsh from just the 5% terps you think?:o That's how I feel about some of the THClear syringes, but I have no idea how much of the content is terps. :mental: I still gotta try one of those inception coil dabs, but I probably need to find an RDA I can hook up a to an 18mm glass rig, I'll need water on that for sure :whoa:



I got a few of these coming in any day, I'll try to see if it can run in TC mode. At 1.2 ohm it's possible?



Your experience with these tanks so far is quite encouraging regarding the lack of leaks. I hope I'll enjoy the vape quality as much. If the liberty tanks with top air can take those elevation changes without leaks (not sure if my cubi would also?) that means that you might even be able to take those on a flight, filled up, and not experience leaks? :hmm:
You are the man I've got some veco and baby beast rda coming
So for the rda you drill holes ? I've also got some other little carts coming with terps so excited to do some experimenting
How does tc on the mods work?
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
Will try this, thanks! I was using it to mix with "lesser" quality rosin from last years flowers. :)

I just picked that one up a few weeks ago, got some super lemon haze that was just too terpy, I'd start coughing half way into my dab and end up wasting the other half of the dab. This made it tolerable, and it's still super terpy.

Here's a pic - the left is the starting material, right is finished. I think it will actually wick in a cart this way without adding any extra terpenes. Not sure, gonna try and fill a cart with it tomorrow and see.

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ChaiLifeOR

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Yes, because concentrate is more fluid when it's decarbed. Distillate and CO2 oil are decarbed as part of the extraction process. Actually, first try with the Trinity tank was not decarbed. Same lack of effects, but at the time, chalked it up to the mix being too thick. Don't know what's going on now.
I’m pretty sure that this isn’t true. At least not in Oregon. I’ve done BHO runs myself from start to finish, and can say that the resulting product is not edible without decarboxylation.

I’ve also watched it happen in labs where they’re doing CO2 runs using fractionalized distillation. ALL concentrate containers in Oregon say “do not eat” on them, though we know that it’s safe to cook with them.

What part of the live resin production process would allow for decarboxylation? I’m rather curious...
 
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mc

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I’m pretty sure that this isn’t true. At least not in Oregon. I’ve done BHO runs myself from start to finish, and can say that the resulting product is not edible without decarboxylation.

I’ve also watched it happen in labs where they’re doing CO2 runs using fractionalized distillation. ALL concentrate containers in Oregon say “do not eat” on them, though we know that it’s safe to cook with them.

What part of the live resin production process would allow for decarboxylation? I’m rather curious...

he said distillate and CO2 were decarbed during the process which is 100% correct. You went on a whole tangent based on misreading what he wrote. He said nothing about BHO. They also say DO NOT EAT as a warning, nothing more.
 
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