Discontinued Ghost MV1
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Mr Mellish
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That night, I had a long drive ahead of me and needed to hit the road. I wanted to take it with me because I'd be staying in a hotel and it would be the perfect opportunity to check it out, since I do not live in a cannabis friendly household. Stayed 45 minutes after the reported delivery window. Of course, he showed up an hour after that. Although I don't deal with anxiety, I was quite anxious, knowing my wife or son had gotten the box.
Got home late last night and it was unopened. Quickly yanked the battery and the fast charger so that it could charge (in case I needed a "re-charge" in the middle of the night). Only now am I getting a chance to look at the device.
It is surprisingly heavy; people with weak wrists/hands might struggle with holding it. My assumption was that the battery pack was the major cause of the weight but it comes in at 127 G while the device without battery comes in at 218 g.
It seems very solidly built and does not come across as a cheap sweat-shop product in any way. The latch to release the crucible door is a bit of a bitch to press successfully. The scraping of the MP when you extend or retract it is a horrible sound and it does seem to scratch the MP.
I will now pause to do a burn-off. I never do that with vapes (and don't worry about silicone or air paths), but I figure I'll do it this time just to see what I see.
It took reading Bud's page to actually figure out how to use the buttons and I still don't feel confident yet. The page https://forum.vapelife.com/discussion/1767/ghost-mv1-usage-guide-tips-for-best-performance (thanks, @Summer ). In medium amber, the center of the unit gets warm but can't touch the heat of my SS GH. I did not see any off-gassing through the MP but
Probably not a good idea for me to do a test drive right now, so I can't speak to the effectiveness/coolness/efficiency (I have "high" hopes).
I'm looking at this and it looks like I'm shitting all over the MV1 but I'm not. These are initial observations only. My outlook is still positive. It does seem clear that, despite the references to medical grade, this device could be a struggle for medical users with any hand/finger/wrist issues.
Stiff button -- not worried, they say this eases up with use.
Scraping -- not worried, I'll get a replacement at some point.
Controls -- I am negative here. The process seems needlessly complex but I'm sure I'll get into the rhythm with it eventually.
Electronic sound -- this is a little annoying but not a major negative. It does mean that I might refrain from using it in situations where I would readily use the GH or the FW.
Actually, my opinion is changing on the stiff button. I got it open a couple times but now can't get it open at all. I'm hoping the crucible lid isn't jamming it but have no way to be sure. Not sure if I need to try to pull the heatsink out from above to release the pressure.
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Bologna
(zombie) Woof.
It’s not really a button and more of a latch. Slide it to the right to open, use the first big joint on your thumb to close it, not the tip.
Edit: at least for me anyways with my right hand, as I hyper extended my thumb a few weeks ago whilst picking blackberries (long story). Still hurts a good deal trying to apply any pressure on anything.
Edit: at least for me anyways with my right hand, as I hyper extended my thumb a few weeks ago whilst picking blackberries (long story). Still hurts a good deal trying to apply any pressure on anything.
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elykpeace
exVASted
@Mr Mellish try opening the crucible door and pulling the heat sync out and re seat it (with door open) also the door is opened with a slide to the right more then a push...
@Bologna good game ! You beat me by a min
@Bologna good game ! You beat me by a min
Mr Mellish
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Understood on the latch; that's what I've been trying to do, not push straight down. Managed to get the heat sink out but that didn't help.
While typing this, I continued to slide with extreme pressure and did manage to get the door open. There was a bit of a loud click I hadn't heard before, so I'm thinking it was the crucible lid. Time will tell.
Thanks, @Bologna and @elykpeace !
ETA: now I'm playing around with the crucible and lid. It's a little wonky (and probably can't be done in a real hurry, as I sometimes need to do) but experience will likely improve results. The loose lid doesn't bother me UNLESS it continues to creep up and potentially jam the door from opening. Out of curiosity, I dumped a FW capsule into the crucible. The MV1 can probably hold 15-20% more material than the FW capsule.
ETA2: While loading the crucible, I bumped it and the lid did go askew on me. You could see the white of the crucible as a strip along the edge of the lid. This is a quick check for you...if you look down and see anything but silver (see white peeking through), reset the lid before closing.
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ChooChooCharlie
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@Mr Mellish - mine was stiff when the Ghost arrived. (so was the latch button)
Need friction to push that latch to the right.
Have girly man hands. Rubber pickle jar openers help for grip.
After a few times, it loosens up, no more rubbers, can ride bareback.
Need friction to push that latch to the right.
Have girly man hands. Rubber pickle jar openers help for grip.
After a few times, it loosens up, no more rubbers, can ride bareback.
Bologna
(zombie) Woof.
Having pre-loaded crucibles is really a necessity if out and about especially in the dark. A Ghost holder is coming but I find re-purposing a product container works fine too:
Edit: apparently I can't post a pic from my phone directly and need to have it hosted... gimmie a bit.
Edit: apparently I can't post a pic from my phone directly and need to have it hosted... gimmie a bit.
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elykpeace
exVASted
@Mr Mellish you figured it out right away I suppose. I'm getting old .. seriously sat there for a good couple mins trying to push with both thumbs. (Thought to myself wow these guys were right I can't even open it.) Then I figured it out and it was still with some restriction but after a little repitition It got it much easier 
Mr Mellish
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@Mr Mellish you figured it out right away I suppose. I'm getting old .. seriously sat there for a good couple mins trying to push with both thumbs. (Thought to myself wow these guys were right I can't even open it.) Then I figured it out and it was still with some restriction but after a little repitition It got it much easier
Unfortunately, @elykpeace, I closed it after loading it and struggle to get it open again. I believe that when I finally get it open, I'll leave the crucible out and spend some time exercising the mechanism.
Brilliant thought, @ChooChooCharlie. I used a silicone wine bottle stopper and was able to get it open. Thanks. Now to begin exercising the mechanism...
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elykpeace
exVASted
My only issues with the MV1 are the cruicible cap not staying on and the high pitched noise it makes if your in a silent room. I really have difficulty not spilling these little tiny Chambers but I'm trying to get better or find a easier way because I do like it .. I stick around 2amber lights and avb on the one that didn't fall and dump out on the floor was evenly brown and when I ran it through the WS got a wispy vapor outta it .. so it's efficent..
@Ratchett if I sent you a crucible do you think you could make something to better accommodate this cruicible cap?
I thought if the crucible was round I could bend three of the tabs and slide it onto the cap but it's oval shaped.
@Ratchett if I sent you a crucible do you think you could make something to better accommodate this cruicible cap?
I thought if the crucible was round I could bend three of the tabs and slide it onto the cap but it's oval shaped.
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I'd be happy to help, what are you looking to accomplish? Storage of preloaded crucibles? Easier method to load multiple crucibles?
Mr. Me2
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I agree!
elykpeace
exVASted
Storage would be nice! I know they have something comming out tho so more so a way to get the lid of the crucible to stay on. I thought of a sleeve you could insert the cruicible into when the top is on that allow the air to go through it ... I will try and draw something out. But I keep dumping my load prematurely
Mr Mellish
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OK, I'm going to recommend that anyone who gets a new MV1 take some time to exercise the hinge and latch on their unit if they don't want to struggle with opening it. Leave the crucible out and spend a while unlocking, opening and closing. It makes a world of difference.
Of course, just using it will ultimately have the same result but I'm suggesting this to make your early forays into loading and unloading more pleasant.
Of course, just using it will ultimately have the same result but I'm suggesting this to make your early forays into loading and unloading more pleasant.
Mr Mellish
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Maiden voyage:
Had to refer to Bud's instructions for the third time (won't be the last time) but was able to follow the instructions cleanly and set the thing to amber 1.
Based on the lack of draw resistance and the absence of a need to cough, I wondered if I had gotten anything.
Three draws at the lowest setting. The first draw was a little light but there was vapor. Surprising amount of vapor on the second and third draws. The flavor wasn't bad but not at FW levels. (I'm not a cloud chaser, so I'm only reporting this for those who are -- I haven't decided if visible vapor is a good thing or a bad thing.)
Here's the thing, I was surprised by the impact of those three draws at low. Felt it far more than I expected to. Having said that, it seems that my first experience with every new vape exceeds expectations and then settles down to a similar level. Time will tell.
Had to refer to Bud's instructions for the third time (won't be the last time) but was able to follow the instructions cleanly and set the thing to amber 1.
Based on the lack of draw resistance and the absence of a need to cough, I wondered if I had gotten anything.
Three draws at the lowest setting. The first draw was a little light but there was vapor. Surprising amount of vapor on the second and third draws. The flavor wasn't bad but not at FW levels. (I'm not a cloud chaser, so I'm only reporting this for those who are -- I haven't decided if visible vapor is a good thing or a bad thing.)
Here's the thing, I was surprised by the impact of those three draws at low. Felt it far more than I expected to. Having said that, it seems that my first experience with every new vape exceeds expectations and then settles down to a similar level. Time will tell.
Mr Mellish
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There is no button. You just need to apply pressure (hopefully without pushing the power button -- the most likely place to squeeze) and slide down.
Summer
Long Island, NY
Thanks for responding @Mr Mellish. 
Between you & me, I got it. You do press the black button at the very bottom (in front) of the vape &, then, just slide the battery compartment down to remove. It's a release latch. What I was doing was pressing the button & trying to pull it off. Even though it clicks back in, I'm choosing to depress it when re-inserting the battery so as not to have it wear down the latch as it is only plastic & it has to last the life of the battery pack.
Between you & me, I got it. You do press the black button at the very bottom (in front) of the vape &, then, just slide the battery compartment down to remove. It's a release latch. What I was doing was pressing the button & trying to pull it off. Even though it clicks back in, I'm choosing to depress it when re-inserting the battery so as not to have it wear down the latch as it is only plastic & it has to last the life of the battery pack.
Mr Mellish
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Bologna
(zombie) Woof.
The battery was a bit tricky for me the first time... being as overanxious as I was didn’t help anything either. I held off responding right away, too, cuz I knew you would get it! Just be patient and open and this device will be a breeze to operate reliably and predictably. Enjoy!
Summer
Long Island, NY
@Bologna, I only got it because @Mr Mellish piped in with 'slide down.' So with my pressing & his sliding down, it, thankfully, worked.
I'd have included a smiley, but something's gone awry with posting & liking posts. hmmm.....
I'd have included a smiley, but something's gone awry with posting & liking posts. hmmm.....
Mr Mellish
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Yup, we learn real good together. Now let’s start seeing some reports!
ETA:
Crickets!
I returned to the load that I mentioned earlier. I checked the Bud lesson again and then killed the first crucible. 3-4 draws at A2, A3, R1, R2 (how many? Fuck, I don’t know...if you want counting done, Mr. Mellish ain’t your man). The battery is still going strong.
I’m disappointed in the flavor. Maybe it’s them factory chemicals I didn’t burn off! It quickly went popcorn on me. I’m impressed with the battery life (hey, I have 2 GH’s) and how long the load lasted (I don’t have another vape that would get 15-20 draws off that much material).
Effects? About what I would expect.
20=70 minutes of elevator music (see above, I already warned you about the Mr. Mellish counting system).
During the hiatus, I checked the crucible and the abv was frighteningly close to combustion. Lest anyone call BS, here it is:
Loaded a second batch of different material and finer grind. Three draws at A1, A2, A3, R1 and R2. The taste was pretty good until A3. At that point, meh. Very toasty.
Checked the abv. It is dark chocolate but not pre-combustion (but, I did fewer draws without the highest temps). Effects good.
Another factor that may interest some is the odor. I understand that we get a cannabis blindness and that scares me. So far, my experience has been that if I can't smell it, no one seems to notice (or they are really super polite...mmmm...THAT wouldn't happen). If I can smell it, it's time for incense and prayer (or maybe an invitation to take the wife shopping).
The effects are quite good. Not over the top good but very solid. Perhaps the rumored app will tone this hot mother down and improve the flavor. At R2, I had no issues drawing straight into my lungs; this baby cools the vapor.
Enough for now.
ETA:
Crickets!
I returned to the load that I mentioned earlier. I checked the Bud lesson again and then killed the first crucible. 3-4 draws at A2, A3, R1, R2 (how many? Fuck, I don’t know...if you want counting done, Mr. Mellish ain’t your man). The battery is still going strong.
I’m disappointed in the flavor. Maybe it’s them factory chemicals I didn’t burn off! It quickly went popcorn on me. I’m impressed with the battery life (hey, I have 2 GH’s) and how long the load lasted (I don’t have another vape that would get 15-20 draws off that much material).
Effects? About what I would expect.
20=70 minutes of elevator music (see above, I already warned you about the Mr. Mellish counting system).
During the hiatus, I checked the crucible and the abv was frighteningly close to combustion. Lest anyone call BS, here it is:
Loaded a second batch of different material and finer grind. Three draws at A1, A2, A3, R1 and R2. The taste was pretty good until A3. At that point, meh. Very toasty.
Checked the abv. It is dark chocolate but not pre-combustion (but, I did fewer draws without the highest temps). Effects good.
Another factor that may interest some is the odor. I understand that we get a cannabis blindness and that scares me. So far, my experience has been that if I can't smell it, no one seems to notice (or they are really super polite...mmmm...THAT wouldn't happen). If I can smell it, it's time for incense and prayer (or maybe an invitation to take the wife shopping).
The effects are quite good. Not over the top good but very solid. Perhaps the rumored app will tone this hot mother down and improve the flavor. At R2, I had no issues drawing straight into my lungs; this baby cools the vapor.
Enough for now.
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highasakite
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I haven't posted since the first night I used the MV1, but I thought I should finally add a few more comments. I had planned to the last few days, but I would read and catch up on the threads, vape a little, and never get around to posting. :-d Also, because my comments will echo those of others.
When this vape works well, it's amazing. It produces a different effect than other vapes. It can last longer. But it is very inconsistent.
I thought I had it figured out when I really let my herb dry out, medium grind, for days. Often I produce flavorful clouds from the first pull, starting at heat level 3. But not all the time. Sometimes, they will happen on the 2nd draw (like it has to warm the herb up). Sometimes after a stir. Sometimes after a heat bump. Thankfully, the other draws are usually decent and will get you lifted. I seem to average 2-4 "clouds" and 3-4 light to medium (good) pulls. When the 3-4 others are only light vapor, it's just not as fulfilling.
I have been diligent in cleaning the crucible as well. I keep alcohol wipes (only 1¢ a piece at the grocery store) close by to keep the lid unclogged. It's a little tedious, but it comes with this style of vape. Here's a pic of some uneven ABV..
Here's a couple more, with an another awesome vape.
It was hard for me to get some decent pictures depicting exactly how much of the material looked green, but you can get the idea. The good news is I can stick that ABV right into a Supreme bowl and get 2 more huge clouds with it.
The view from above, crucible in, heatsink out..
So it doesn't look like it's quite "closed" enough, but this seems to be in line with what others show. There is also some play here, with how the crucible sits in the hole. There is also some play with the lid of the crucible. For example..
As others have said, the battery life is nowhere near Bud's 102 pulls. I have gotten 36, 49, and 50 before plugging the battery back in. I did not run it until it died though - based on how fast it was discharging, I might have had 5 or so draws left. I used the quick charger to charge it the first time. Then because it didn't seem like I got what I should've, I used the USB charge overnight the 2nd time. Doesn't seem to matter.
Only one more complaint - I hate the 1 button design. It doesn't take a long time, but the process to get to the heat setting annoys me.
I just wanted to finally get all my notes/thoughts down. It sounds like I'm critical, but I suppose that's in my nature. It is a very unique device that has great potential, but for now it all comes down to the app. If it works as promised, it could alleviate many of the above issues. Fingers crossed!!
When this vape works well, it's amazing. It produces a different effect than other vapes. It can last longer. But it is very inconsistent.
I thought I had it figured out when I really let my herb dry out, medium grind, for days. Often I produce flavorful clouds from the first pull, starting at heat level 3. But not all the time. Sometimes, they will happen on the 2nd draw (like it has to warm the herb up). Sometimes after a stir. Sometimes after a heat bump. Thankfully, the other draws are usually decent and will get you lifted. I seem to average 2-4 "clouds" and 3-4 light to medium (good) pulls. When the 3-4 others are only light vapor, it's just not as fulfilling.
I have been diligent in cleaning the crucible as well. I keep alcohol wipes (only 1¢ a piece at the grocery store) close by to keep the lid unclogged. It's a little tedious, but it comes with this style of vape. Here's a pic of some uneven ABV..
Here's a couple more, with an another awesome vape.
It was hard for me to get some decent pictures depicting exactly how much of the material looked green, but you can get the idea. The good news is I can stick that ABV right into a Supreme bowl and get 2 more huge clouds with it.
The view from above, crucible in, heatsink out..
So it doesn't look like it's quite "closed" enough, but this seems to be in line with what others show. There is also some play here, with how the crucible sits in the hole. There is also some play with the lid of the crucible. For example..
As others have said, the battery life is nowhere near Bud's 102 pulls. I have gotten 36, 49, and 50 before plugging the battery back in. I did not run it until it died though - based on how fast it was discharging, I might have had 5 or so draws left. I used the quick charger to charge it the first time. Then because it didn't seem like I got what I should've, I used the USB charge overnight the 2nd time. Doesn't seem to matter.
Only one more complaint - I hate the 1 button design. It doesn't take a long time, but the process to get to the heat setting annoys me.
I just wanted to finally get all my notes/thoughts down. It sounds like I'm critical, but I suppose that's in my nature. It is a very unique device that has great potential, but for now it all comes down to the app. If it works as promised, it could alleviate many of the above issues. Fingers crossed!!
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