Herb Grinders

[GreenHopper]

Tried it too @GreenHopper lmao picturing it in your head isn't enough GOOD GAME

Haha, exactly!

I was curious to see how much dexterity would be required and was surprised at how feasible it was assuming no major back issues and your legs work ok.

I guess it would also depend on the grinder you are using, my SWII is a decent size with lots of surface area. Worked a treat...

 

[JCharles]

Back when I first started smoking in highschool we broke our weed up with scissors or fingers. Joints or pipes got the job done.

Then in college everyone used a coffee grinder to cut their herb. The elite of that day went scissors and shot glass. Joints and pipes still ruled. Of course the bong was king in all group settings and they came in every shape and size.

Fastforward 5 years and coffee grinders are out and Amazon.com 2 and 3 piece grinders rule the planet; lots of plastic grinders back then. Vaporizers are becoming popular within a niche market; joints,pipes and bongs take the market share.

Another 5-10 years and vaporizers rule the day, and 3 and 4 piece grinders are supreme. Gone are the days of spending $5 at the corner store or headshop for a grinder - health risks due to metal flakes or something like that. Water pipes are so much cooler than the traditional bong and then there's oil rigs as well. And the variety in vaporizers is incredible - modkits, wax pens, portables, desktops, convection and conduction. Oh my.


So this is where we are, and in the past 18 months I've been looking for the "right" grinder for me.

I tried a small space case - it should be called micro, this was useless for me. Maybe if my mom ever starts vaping I'll pass it on to her.

I foolishly picked up an Amazon slug life grinder. It looks good but performance is lacking Takes far too much torque to get things moving. Best part of this grinder is the mini brush to clean the kief tray.

At the same time I snagged a 3" 4 piece that has been my daily driver for the past 6 months. I didn't look closely enough when I purchased it but the kief tray has machine grooves all through it and the scrape tool is soft plastic. 6 months of kief basically wasted. But I could crush an easy 2.5grams in one go.

So on Friday morning I ordered a SWII with high hopes and expectations. Holy bananas they are quick. Lunch time roles around and my grinder has all ready shipped.

Scored the 20% FC discount. Now I have to wait for it to cross the border into Canada and I'll report back on thoughts and shortcomings (If any).

I hope it's not too big of an efficiency difference between the 3" I was using and the 2.5".

Here is the 3" open view and with space case small on top.

http://i68.tinypic.com/5f543m.jpg

 

[tepictoton]

@KidFated. this might be a good time to try vaping buds without grinding them, then after a few hits just pook at it with a stir stick or dabber and break it up on the go...

depending on which vaporizer you are using this might work wonders...it definately works for a lot of us.

Still loving my black leaf matrix grinder, which for us Europeans is a very affordable alternative to buying a santa cruz grinder.

Have not had the chance to try the newvape ones, but I have written them a few messages about information concerning some of their products and international shipping, and I never got a response from them(including here on the forum). That keeps me from maybe trying it (allong with flowerpot, pressing plates and pre-press plates I inquired about without ever getting a response).

Pitty we Europeans need to pay an extra to get our hands on the more high grade grinders. Production or better said innovtaion in Europe seems non-existent, almost al grinders are the same rebranded chinese models. Black leaf at least has the trapeze teeth.

 

[InterplanetaryTanner]

The cost of shipping and the customs and duty fees are pretty high when shipping to Europe...

I just shipped a tiny box to Europe and I'm amazed at how expensive if it was.

 

[rodders83]

The cost of shipping and the customs and duty fees are pretty high when shipping to Europe...

I just shipped a tiny box to Europe and I'm amazed at how expensive if it was.

Your customer will also be given a hefty fee as well i believe 20% + £8 handling is normal unless you mark the value down or hide the value with no recipet. This is why i am trying to get in touch with Space Case about my off color grinder because if someone else with Titanium buys parts across the pond everything must be 100% matched.

Because the fee is downright outrageous, Infact it makes buying from the USA nearly impossible. The only solution is a new trade deal soon when we leave the EU who have the upper hand because anything bought there has no fee and it quite good.

So as i said to you owners and makers of these great tools, If you ship to Europe check and double check because if you end up with an unhappy customer who paid customs, And you paid a hefty fee too boy would that be messy potentially.

 

[tepictoton]

We do have some retailers selling the US high end grinders, but at prices I simply cannot get myself to pay for a grinder...

 

[little maggie]

Is the new vape heavier than others? I have a different brand that ways quite a bit in my discard pile. And is it only a 2 piece? I prefer 3 piece for some reason. I don't collect kief- I never grind enough to make it worth saving.
I've stopped using my kannastor gr8ter because it gets so dirty and is a hassle to clean. The slx is getting really hard to turn- for some reason the threads are not interconnecting.
So that leaves me with the super weapon 2. It stays as clean as the slx but has no developed the turning problem that the slx has.
I like having more than 1 functional grinder because I only grind a tiny bit and leave it in the grinder until using. With only 1 I can only grind 1 herb. The kannastor was the exception.

 

[little maggie]

Your post is the perfect example of the most important feature of any grinder. Finding the grinder(s) with the features you like.

The New Vape Fine Grind is a 3 inch, aluminum, 2 piece grinder. It's specialty is a fine grind.

https://www.newvape.com/grinders

Thanks. Maybe the easiest solution is to buy another SW2. I've tried so many grinders and that's been the best for me. But it seems like they're busy focusing on whatever their new product is because it's only available in gold at their website. I don't think I want that color.

 

[InterplanetaryTanner]

Thanks. Maybe the easiest solution is to buy another SW2. I've tried so many grinders and that's been the best for me. But it seems like they're busy focusing on whatever their new product is because it's only available in gold at their website. I don't think I want that color.

All 4 colors should be available. Currently the arrow selector box is tiny and hard to see. We're working on getting that fixed!

 

[The Beagle]

I've stopped using my kannastor gr8ter because it gets so dirty and is a hassle to clean.

Whike I agree that it gets dirty quite fast and the performance really degrades when it's dirty (at least if you use the fine plate) I just dump it in the alcohol jar I use to clean glass and vapes parts and after ten minutes it's clean. Just a quick rinse with tap water and it's ready to go back to work.

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

Picked up a New Vape Fine Grind about a week ago. It is a old school 2-piece bare bones design. It is by far my best machined and most impressive looking grinder at 3" inches with a beautiful titanium looking finish. It is unique in that the top section is female and the bottom section is male. The grinder is smooth with no grip features at all but I have found they are not needed. The deep engraving on the top could not get much more cool, to me it looks like something 'steampunk' from the twenties.

It holds a decent amount of herb but will work best if you leave some space for the herb to move around. This grinder has a noticeably different feel when grinding compared to any of my other grinders. It is 'cutting' the herb with every twist and it seems it has the ability to cut as long as you are willing to twist the grinder, but once resistance is gone you are pretty much finished. The results are a 'perfect fine grind' for those that prefer a fine grind to vape it would be hard to get any better than this. This grinder is also a fairly easy grinder to clean up.

The negatives about this grinder is that it is just a bare bones two-piece grinder and that is it. You may need a decent sized area, and a brush to remove the perfectly fine ground herb from this grinders teeth. So it is more work every time you grind but also a better quality grind.

So my grinder line up is now New Vape Fine Grind because of the grind quality, SCS large 3-piece makes a perfect fluffy medium grind but gets dirty the quickest, SLC 2.0 stays clean the longest but is third in grind quality.

I have ranted about dirty grinders so I might as well mention my new cleaning method. After I grind, I clean the grinder. It is just a brush here and there with a denture brush and a little ISO on a q-tip there. I have found that just keeping my grinder clean as I go keeps me out of the need to do a deep cleaning which I hate.

As far as grinders go it is different strokes for different folks. Many people would not be happy with a simple two-piece grinder because some of the features grinders now have like kief screens and storage options are so handy and nice. These reasons to get a grinder are every bit as legitimate as build quality or a particular grind. Most good herb grinders are built on the same basic design so buying a grinder is beginning to come down to what a person likes more and more.

I happen to think the New Vape Fine Grind is the top of the heap but that doesn't really matter much as long as you get a grinder that you like.

New Vape Fine Grinder in Action

thank you for the wonderful review of our fine grinder. For cleaning I recomend hot water, dish soap, and a hard bristle brush will keep it running smoothly.

 

[KidFated.]

i wonder how long until @steama is trying the other Newvape grinder.....

 

[little maggie]

i wonder how long until @steama is trying the other Newvape grinder.....

?. They don't really have a lot of other options other than coarse grind or pendant.

 

[KidFated.]

?. They don't really have a lot of other options other than coarse grind or pendant.

I was jokingly referring to the newvape coarse grinder.....

 

[The Beagle]

I'm curious about how coarse actually is the grind produced by the other New Vape model, does anyone have a picture?

 

[Alexis]

I received my Newvape Fine Grinder today from Vaposhop! I saw it out of stock last week, checked back on the weekend and grabbed one for the best price for a Eurooean I believe- £45 shipped to UK (I also picked up some Crafty concentrate pads to use with essential oils, in order to qualify for free shipping at €50).

Top service from @VapoShop !
I couldn't wait to test the grinder out earlier so I did just that and loaded up my Herborizer with a bud of Durban.

I was expecting a pretty dusty grind, but was surprised that it still looked quite coarse and chunky when it came out- much more than I was expecting anyway. Not totally dissimilar to my 2 piece SCS which I am not happy with- the grind is too irregular with plenty unground chunks that don't vape properly.

Anyway, the weed did vape much better, the whole experience was better for the grind quality, even though it didn't look nearly as fine as I hoped.

In one sense, I was disappointed, and in another, pleased that the grind still had a slight coarseness to it, because I think there is a line to draw with the grind and a case of pros and cons, dependant on vaporizer model, as you go from medium to fine.

But hey, what do I know?!

I really like the size. The inside capacity is much smaller of course. I am really hoping it will work to grind up very small amounts equally well, like 0.1 grams only.

And I also plan to use it to grind up weed for edibles in larger batches. Is a real pain in the SCS 2 piece. So many reloads, dificult to turn and empty, very clogged up and non functional afterwards.
This is one reason Im pleased a moderately coarse grind is possible with the Newvape Fine Grinder. I can just do less turns for edibles if I don't want it too fine.

I will have to try turning the grinder for longer as well, I gave it a food number of twists but could do more.
Need to do more grinder testing- can't wait!

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

I received my Newvape Fine Grinder today from Vaposhop! I saw it out of stock last week, checked back on the weekend and grabbed one for the best price for a Eurooean I believe- £45 shipped to UK (I also picked up some Crafty concentrate pads to use with essential oils, in order to qualify for free shipping at €50).

Top service from @VapoShop !
I couldn't wait to test the grinder out earlier so I did just that and loaded up my Herborizer with a bud of Durban.

I was expecting a pretty dusty grind, but was surprised that it still looked quite coarse and chunky when it came out- much more than I was expecting anyway. Not totally dissimilar to my 2 piece SCS which I am not happy with- the grind is too irregular with plenty unground chunks that don't vape properly.

Anyway, the weed did vape much better, the whole experience was better for the grind quality, even though it didn't look nearly as fine as I hoped.

In one sense, I was disappointed, and in another, pleased that the grind still had a slight coarseness to it, because I think there is a line to draw with the grind and a case of pros and cons, dependant on vaporizer model, as you go from medium to fine.

But hey, what do I know?!

I really like the size. The inside capacity is much smaller of course. I am really hoping it will work to grind up very small amounts equally well, like 0.1 grams only.

And I also plan to use it to grind up weed for edibles in larger batches. Is a real pain in the SCS 2 piece. So many reloads, dificult to turn and empty, very clogged up and non functional afterwards.
This is one reason Im pleased a moderately coarse grind is possible with the Newvape Fine Grinder. I can just do less turns for edibles if I don't want it too fine.

I will have to try turning the grinder for longer as well, I gave it a food number of twists but could do more.
Need to do more grinder testing- can't wait![/QUOTE

thank you for the grinder review @Alexis . As it turns out designing a grinder for the ideal grind size is a very difficult challenge. I call it the moving target. Much more challenging than designing our rosin presses and vaporizes. The reason I say it's challenging is because there are several variables beyond the design that affect the grind size. Here are 3 of the biggest variables. 1) dryness of material, 2) amount of material loaded into the chamber, 3) number of twists. If you pack the chamber full with dry material, grind with 20 twists the resulting grind should be extremely fine. The more you pack the chamber the finer the grind will be. This is because there's no room left inside the chamber for the material to move around without being cut. We use dispensary dried material to do our testing with. (I personally find dispensary dried material way to dry for my taste) I appreciate your business and your honest review. I suggest a weekly cleaning with hot dish soap and a firm scrub brush. I've tried the dishwasher and it discolored the anodize. Grinding for edibles sounds interesting i'd love you see some of your products. I've been developing some cooking techniques for utilizing already vaped bud "AVB" which I find amazing. Being able to use the material twice makes me feel like I've been wasteful my entire life.

 

[Alexis]

thank you for the grinder review @Alexis . As it turns out designing a grinder for the ideal grind size is a very difficult challenge. I call it the moving target. Much more challenging than designing our rosin presses and vaporizes. The reason I say it's challenging is because there are several variables beyond the design that affect the grind size. Here are 3 of the biggest variables. 1) dryness of material, 2) amount of material loaded into the chamber, 3) number of twists. If you pack the chamber full with dry material, grind with 20 twists the resulting grind should be extremely fine. The more you pack the chamber the finer the grind will be. This is because there's no room left inside the chamber for the material to move around without being cut. We use dispensary dried material to do our testing with. (I personally find dispensary dried material way to dry for my taste) I appreciate your business and your honest review. I suggest a weekly cleaning with hot dish soap and a firm scrub brush. I've tried the dishwasher and it discolored the anodize. Grinding for edibles sounds interesting i'd love you see some of your products. I've been developing some cooking techniques for utilizing already vaped bud "AVB" which I find amazing. Being able to use the material twice makes me feel like I've been wasteful my entire life.

Thanks kindly for sharing this with me, all of which makes solid sense. My material I used earlier doesn't tend to grind down as fine as other strains. It is still sitting at about 61 % in the jar. If I left it out for half a day Im sure it would grind finer. Even when the humidity is higher than the inside jar, I still find the herb dries out amd crumbles finer.

I will experiment and see how different loads/bud works. I wasn't at all disatisfied with your fine grinder. Such a pleasure to use. I just want to grind weed for the sake of it!

My edibles are dead dead simple. Just infused into coconut oil for 2 to 3 hours on the lowest heat, stirring every 15 minutes. No water, just 10 grams of fresh bud, decarbed in oven first at 240°F for 1 hour, then heated in 130 grams coconut oil with 2 teaspoons sunflower lecithin.

Then just strained through muslin into a jar. When I strain the coconut oil out of the herb and lecithin mix with cheesecloth, it is impossible to get all of the coconut oil out. So I wrap the ball of muslin tight, and pour boiling water over it in a cup and squeeze the goodness out.
It makes the most delicious creamy cup of cannabis tea ever! The lecithin gives it creaminess and flavour and I think the weed tastes pretty great as well, plus the coconut oil.

I usually go about three days just making cups of tea from the muslin before I even need to start on the jar. However it is impossible to know the dose you are getting. That first cup can be a little overwhelming on occasion! I don't want to underdose but overdosing seems the only way to be sure. All good though.

We don't bother cooking the coconut again after this, no need, just take it by the spoon straight from the fridge. It's delicious as hell. If you spread it on a piece of cold baked potato, or even better a bit of roasted sweet potato, it is one heck of a taste sensation! Rats would gladly press a knob for that brief pleasure I tell you! If only they were using this stuff more on Masterchef, wow it's luxurious!

I usually take it by itself on an emoty stomach. I have major digestive problems and the cannabis infused coconut oil is a real godsend.

Thanks again for your tips. I will do my best to spread good word about the grinder as I gain more experience.

 

[Justpassedu]

thank you for the grinder review @Alexis . As it turns out designing a grinder for the ideal grind size is a very difficult challenge. I call it the moving target. Much more challenging than designing our rosin presses and vaporizes. The reason I say it's challenging is because there are several variables beyond the design that affect the grind size. Here are 3 of the biggest variables. 1) dryness of material, 2) amount of material loaded into the chamber, 3) number of twists. If you pack the chamber full with dry material, grind with 20 twists the resulting grind should be extremely fine. The more you pack the chamber the finer the grind will be. This is because there's no room left inside the chamber for the material to move around without being cut. We use dispensary dried material to do our testing with. (I personally find dispensary dried material way to dry for my taste) I appreciate your business and your honest review. I suggest a weekly cleaning with hot dish soap and a firm scrub brush. I've tried the dishwasher and it discolored the anodize. Grinding for edibles sounds interesting i'd love you see some of your products. I've been developing some cooking techniques for utilizing already vaped bud "AVB" which I find amazing. Being able to use the material twice makes me feel like I've been wasteful my entire life.

@NewVape710 i'd like to thank you also. The fine grind is perfect. I am also loving how it has no kief catch this way i am getting all the goodies i deserve when i grind. I actually had some very sticky stuff the other day and did not want to grind it to fine so i resorted to another grinder i own ( i wont name , names ) but i could not for the life of me get the grinder to turn by hand due to how sticky my material was. I ended up taking it out and throwing it in the NewVape grinder and it just worked , very little effort needed and this shows me that the teeth are sharp. The grinder itself screams quality once it is in the users hands. The material is thick , something that will last long beyond my lifetime. I have put roughly 8 ounces through it and the only cleaning i have done so far is brush the sides with a brush and use a qtip with a drop of iso alcohol and run that around the ledge, all is still performing smoothly and it works the same as the day i had received it. To this date i have not tried a grinder that i like more , not to say there is not some quality grinders on the market , i just found my personal favorite now. I am happy more people are getting on board and to know you guys stand behind your products 100% makes it even better.

Oh and a congrats to @steama , i am glad you like it man. I had a strong feeling you would. I agree with the review - ty

 

[Alexis]

So I just used the Newvape fine grinder for the second time. I used about 0.25 grams of recently harvestwd, and just jarred at 62% Auto Night Queen. So nowhere near at a fine grinding stage yet, although I have been snipping it real fine easily with scizzors.

It appeared somwhat coarse/flaky. But when I sift it with my fingers, I see that everything is effectively "opened". The bits are fairly sizeable but are nore like splinters, or shards than whole segments of bud, like I get with the SCS.

Using my Herborizer, i always have to crumble the load down with my fingers at some point. There are so many bits or unopened bud structure that need to be squashed open individually, this relases more vapor after it has dropped off. I hate having to do this though to get the maximum vapor production, and in stages as well.

It doesn't feel like that will be necessary with the Newvape grinder. And if it is, it should be easy as the "tearing" has been done already.
It is my fresh bud, but the way the material is still holding together, like shredded paper, likely helps with the vaporization process. By keeping good airflow.

With this grind, the vapor production is just higher from the start and keeps going for a bit longer. Versus starting to decline and gradually fading to worthless hits, until re-crumbling.

Not such an issue with a monster load (0.6-1 gr).
Anyway, I ran 2 quick bowls through the Omnivap and bubbler and I am very medicated!
So far so good for the grinder, but I expected no different.

 

[lazylathe]

NewVape Fine Grinder Initial impressions:

It looks solid and heavy until you pick it up, then it is sleek and has a nice heft to it!
The engraving is perfect and will never wear off.
It has a super interesting tooth design, an arrow point on one side and a convex cutting side with 2 edges bringing up the rear.
This is a stylish and sleek as well as super functional grinder!!

I ground up some 10 week Girl Scout Cookies and it came out finer than my Kannastor Vape GR8TR and more even!
Grinding action was a bit clunky because this bud is "wetter" and super sticky but NONE stuck to the insides! A simple brush clean and it is good to grind again.

Also noticed increased vapor production due to larger surface area. Always a good thing!

Thanks to @NewVape710 my grinder quest has come to an end!

@steama This grinder is awesome! Perfect fine grind and only two parts!
Going to clean and pack away all my other grinders now!

EDIT:
Used the Fine grinder for the last session as well.
This time some drier Alien OG Kush.
Still a bit clunky and catchy the first few turns, kind of wish there was some sort of grips.
After a few turns it was wizzing away! It makes a beautiful sound!
Grind was perfectly finely ground with so much kief around the edges!!
A quick brush out and it is good to go again!

I can see why @Justpassedu recommended the q-tip with ISO to clean those vital areas!
Only two real surfaces to clean!

 

[lazylathe]

@steama

For extra grip i have added a black silicone band around the top half of the grinder.
Works really well when the grinder is a bit fuller than normal.

I like that it is easy to install and remove and the grinder can sit in all it's naked glory when not in use!

 

[Gigsabits53]

I finally broke down and ordered a SWII. It looks better than both of my grinders so Im sure it will be an upgrade. I almost bought a Gr8tr and may still purchase one in the future. I looked at the New Vape grinders but they are two piece, not for me. I like to collect some kief.

Oh, I added the push press to bump my order up to get free shipping. I think someone else may have bought it from FC, seems like I saw a photo of it here. Anyway, doubt I get too much use out of it, but I love gadgets.

 

[GreenHopper]

I finally broke down and ordered a SWII. It looks better than both of my grinders so Im sure it will be an upgrade. I almost bought a Gr8tr and may still purchase one in the future. I looked at the New Vape grinders but they are two piece, not for me. I like to collect some kief.

Oh, I added the push press to bump my order up to get free shipping. I think someone else may have bought it from FC, seems like I saw a photo of it here. Anyway, doubt I get too much use out of it, but I love gadgets.

Think it was @duff who posted about the press.

 

[duff]

Think it was @duff who posted about the press.

Indeed it was

Awesome press @InterplanetaryTanner.

Couldn't be easier.

Very nice toy!