Gear D-nail thread

[Eatrocks]

My SiC D nail dish handles dabs that size beautifully. It's like five pulls down at an indicated 510-530 and more like three up at an indicated 630 like you guys are dabbing at. The D-nail carb cap is essential for best performance,

but a particular size of 'hash jar' can work in a pinch. It seals well, but doesn't direct airflow into the channel, agitating the oils for best vapor production.

Actually was using same style jar to cap my sic torch nail, using the bottom it sealed all the way to where I couldn't even pull, but playing around makes a pretty good seal, there's an edge on the glass jar that seats great. Btw I didn't actually dab that lolol. Chunks 1/3 the size still leave puddles even if at hot temp(900 at least). Flavor still comes thru good. The cool down time on the torch only sic is real, it'll be ice cold while the ceramic base will burn the shit outta u

 

[grokit]

I can't be the first to think of this.

 

[brucee10]

I can't be the first to think of this.

Thanks for the idea

 

[shredder]

I can't be the first to think of this.

That's been my thought for a while, but I don't have the right size tube yet. A good reminder, thanks!

Do you know the size? And does it fit tight enough?

 

[Gigsabits53]

I put in my order for a SiC Halo earlier today! I'm very excited as this will be a huge upgrade for me. I may have mentioned in here or another thread but I like to use the best quality equipment that I can afford. I figure I'm not getting any younger so I want to get the best. In other words, I want, want , and want some more

I cant wait to taste my 1st dab from my new e-nail setup

 

[grokit]

That's been my thought for a while, but I don't have the right size tube yet. A good reminder, thanks!

Do you know the size? And does it fit tight enough?

I don't know where it's from, but I can tell you that it's pretty standard silicone tubing with an OD of 1/4". It's real tight, I slipped it over the fork end and had to trim ~3/16" off of it because I couldn't quite push it over the hump. So you can be smarter that me, by unscrewing it first and slipping it on from that end.

 

[FlyingLow]

Try some fuel tubing from your local hobby shop.

 

[brucee10]

Try some fuel tubing from your local hobby shop.

I'm just going to use a bunch of o-rings.

 

[StormyPinkness]

After a couple weeks with it I still feel like I don't get the impact as much when I use the sapphire insert, the same amount or even less just seems to impact me more out of the sic or quartz halo. Probably still some user error involved.

That being said I love this thing, the flavor is amazing. The first hit is so tasty and it gives another 2-3 less tasty ones after that. I think I'm going to use it whenever I get a new strain to really try out the flavor first and keep my sic halo as my daily driver. Also love watching it after I drop it on..

 

[invertedisdead]

After a couple weeks with it I still feel like I don't get the impact as much when I use the sapphire insert, the same amount or even less just seems to impact me more out of the sic or quartz halo. Probably still some user error involved.

That being said I love this thing, the flavor is amazing. The first hit is so tasty and it gives another 2-3 less tasty ones after that. I think I'm going to use it whenever I get a new strain to really try out the flavor first and keep my sic halo as my daily driver. Also love watching it after I drop it on..

Have you tried heating the sapphire insert up with the rest of the nail and then dabbing as normal? I thought sapphire did not like thermal shock like this?

 

[StormyPinkness]

Have you tried heating the sapphire insert up with the rest of the nail and then dabbing as normal? I thought sapphire did not like thermal shock like this?

I actually haven't, I'll try that out tonight. After I drop it on and it's vaped everything I have tried dabbing on it, just not too often because I kind of suck at it. It's tough for me to get it in the right spot, not too close to the edge or hole.

I asked in here how to use it (I had no idea) and the advice was pretty much all to drop it on with some tweezers.

 

[darkrom]

Assuming D-nail controller and D-nail coil:

what temps are people using for LARGE dabs on both sic and quartz? I did read back, I'm not being lazy. I hear 530ish for the sic, but you guys are taking BB sized dabs and I'm doing more like 0.2+ most of the time. I am always going up and down with temps and can't seem to find the perfect temp after all this time.

 

[LiftedJosh]

Does anyone know if the Highly Educated quartz carb cap will work with the Dnail Halo?
https://highlyeducatedti.com/collections/carb-caps/products/quartz-carb-cap

 

[shredder]

Assuming D-nail controller and D-nail coil:

what temps are people using for LARGE dabs on both sic and quartz? I did read back, I'm not being lazy. I hear 530ish for the sic, but you guys are taking BB sized dabs and I'm doing more like 0.2+ most of the time. I am always going up and down with temps and can't seem to find the perfect temp after all this time.

I have a tag controller, and use dabs about .08-.1 gr. All on a dnail sic dish, slim series dnail and dnail heater. And I dab at 320-600°F.

I dab rosin and each variety has its own sweet spot. I currently have 6 varieties. And that sweet spot can change depending on when the rosin was squeezed, and the plate temp when squeezing. Fresh herb rosin is dramatically different from rosin pressed from well cured buds.

As a general rule fresh rosin that's runny/oily from terpenes dabs at lower temps that stiffer rosin squeezed from cured buds.

And fairly often I raise temps to finish a mini session. So what I start at say 330 might finish at 380.

In general im a low temp dab guy. Hot hits bother my asthma.

So I'd say you really just need to keep experimenting. There are too many variables for everyone to vape at the same temps, even with the same brand equipment.

 

[Eatrocks]

Well....already cracked my ceramic base. I heard it split during a heat up.....but it still fine for now. It sucks you cant just buy a hive base..maybe if I begged dnail. Just a hairline where the sic sits, that part of the base looks really thick. Hopefully it's ok but it's grown since it started.

 

[ensabbahnur]

Well....already cracked my ceramic base. I heard it split during a heat up.....but it still fine for now. It sucks you cant just buy a hive base..maybe if I begged dnail. Just a hairline where the sic sits, that part of the base looks really thick. Hopefully it's ok but it's grown since it started.

sure you can, just go directly to hive as this was never a d-nail product to begin with. But, tbh id take this as yet another opportunity to go with a a sic halo and v2 cap, once ceramic starts cracking thats the last it should see a torch imo

 

[Justpassedu]

Hi can someone help me out with the dimensions of the Sic Halo as i am trying to have a glass carb cap made up and getting sick of using titanium , just wanted to try something different and custom. Ty

 

[herbivore21]

Well....already cracked my ceramic base. I heard it split during a heat up.....but it still fine for now. It sucks you cant just buy a hive base..maybe if I begged dnail. Just a hairline where the sic sits, that part of the base looks really thick. Hopefully it's ok but it's grown since it started.

Also IME d-nail would definitely do a hive base for you. Also as was said above, other vendors sell hive bases independently. When I have broken parts of newish nails that I bought from d-nail, they were seriously cool about replacements. They did me a replacement pukinbeagle quartz nail when I broke one for like 2/3 of the original price out of sympathy for the break!

 

[grokit]

Hi can someone help me out with the dimensions of the Sic Halo as i am trying to have a glass carb cap made up and getting sick of using titanium , just wanted to try something different and custom. Ty

OD looks to be 1-1/16", ~15/16" on the inside wall

 

[nosmoking]

23.5 mm inside diameter and 27 mm outside diameter. The dish is 7mm deep inside. Keep in mind the retaining nut sits proud(sticks out above) of the top of the dish by 1-2mm so a flat carb cap will not work.

 

[StormyPinkness]

What thermocouple are people using for the sic halo? I tried using this one but it *barely* fits and takes forever to read a temp (also I don't think it reads as high as it should):
https://smile.amazon.com/x/dp/B0142S9J4S

This one looks smaller and I was going to it next:
https://smile.amazon.com/x/dp/B0142RXG84/

 

[Gigsabits53]

Ok so I have had my SiC Halo for a few days now and I think I have dialed in my sweet spot, which seems to be 615-625. Truly amazing flavor!

I have been Q-tipping after every hit. I run a dry Qtip first, followed by a Qtip dipped in water. That should be ok, right? Is there a better method?

 

[StormyPinkness]

Ok so I have had my SiC Halo for a few days now and I think I have dialed in my sweet spot, which seems to be 615-625. Truly amazing flavor!

I have been Q-tipping after every hit. I run a dry Qtip first, followed by a Qtip dipped in water. That should be ok, right? Is there a better method?

That's what I do, so far it's worked really well. Great way to almost effortlessly keep it clean.

 

[nosmoking]

Well....already cracked my ceramic base. I heard it split during a heat up.....but it still fine for now. It sucks you cant just buy a hive base..maybe if I begged dnail. Just a hairline where the sic sits, that part of the base looks really thick. Hopefully it's ok but it's grown since it started.

hopefully you got in touch with Dnail and they fixed you up...but in case they did not here is a link to a base that may work.
https://www.highpriorityglass.com/hive-ceramics-hive-2-piece-domeless-10mm-dish.html

There are a couple others on that site

 

[Baron23]

Hi Guys (and of course my personal friend and always helpful scientist, @herbivore21) - to review, I found that running my Slim Line with SiC Halo at the same temp set point on my Auber as I use with my Liger 2.0 (20 MM) resulted in a lot of pooling and not very beefy hits (and yes, I'm going for the gusto for pain/sedation and want strong quick dabs).

Now, just intuitively, one can look at the Liger with all of that Ti mass, and in particular the Ti that surrounds the SiC insert vs the Halo where the SiC is highly exposed to ambient air, and can easily speculate that they will have very different thermal models and that the SiC Halo will most likely shed more heat to ambient than the Liger SiC insert. I think it can be expected that the same set point will not result in the same dab surface. But there is speculation and there is data.

So, I got a K-type thermo off of Amazon with a couple of thermocouples and ran some measurements.

(@StormyPinkness - I have the TC you said you are going to get next and don't like it for this application. Probably better for setting in a duct and measuring air temp. I found, based on very little experience tbh, that the best ones to use are the ones that expose the metal wire of the TC and I used this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MU29Q3Z/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).​

Now, it still takes a good while for these TCs to truly settle at their ultimate temp (and yeah, its a PIA to sit there for 5 minutes and hold the tip of the TC in the same exact spot for up to 3-5 minutes maybe??).

Short story, what I speculated above was amply supported by the data.

There are some limitations to the data...if you look at the deltas, you will see that my data is not completely linear which is probably more due to issues holding the TC in exactly the same place, instrument error maybe, air con kicking in, etc and not real non-linearity in the thermal model of the devices....but who really knows (well, at least I don't really know).

Doesn't matter to me as all I'm looking for is roughly where to set the temp on the Halo so I get approx the same dab surface temp as the Liger.

Here is the data.

I was surprised at how BIG the difference was between the two but now I know....I need to run my Halo about about 780 or so to get the same dab surface temp as I have been using with my Liger.

I hope this is somewhat helpful to you all.

Cheers