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How to piss clear in two days???

Aimless Ryan

Came to read about grinders; fucked combustion
Assuming everything in that article is true/legit, it told me one very important thing I already knew but have been lied to about repeatedly, because doctors lie more than cops: There is no law making them drug test or exclude "qualified" patients from getting the help they need.

Also, thank you very much for sharing it.

EDIT: "Drug test" = test for THC.
 
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biohacker

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Hmmmm, just thinking out loud, but since CBD is a THC antagonist, would using CBD oil, or vaping CDB isolate crystals speed up cleansing of thc? Probably not, but i'm using it during my break and pretty sure they only test for THC metabolites, not CBD?
 
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Aimless Ryan

Came to read about grinders; fucked combustion
I just got back from my pain clinic appointment. Looks like I'm most likely going to get the help I need. Finally.

I still don't know what my piss had to say, but it may not matter. I was accompanied by a medical-professional friend, who knew how to handle everything and said I "performed" well (regarding my behavior and whatnot). What I mean by "performed" is that I was calm and said what they needed to hear. We actually volunteered information about my cannabis use.
 

C No Ego

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I just got back from my pain clinic appointment. Looks like I'm most likely going to get the help I need. Finally.

I still don't know what my piss had to say, but it may not matter. I was accompanied by a medical-professional friend, who knew how to handle everything and said I "performed" well (regarding my behavior and whatnot). What I mean by "performed" is that I was calm and said what they needed to hear. We actually volunteered information about my cannabis use.

the older people I know who get pain medication can use their cannabis for one month and then stop for a month for a check up( every two months) ... random pee tests not knowing if they will pee test or not... they can go three visits with no tests and get tested on the fourth visit.. testers say they are testing for correct medication levels but if that were it why ad in for narcotics too? I'm, like- 74 year old guy needing to be piss tested+ The Fuck?
 
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biohacker

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Just tested myself, failed after 26 days cannabis free. I think it takes me about 45 days or so, and i'm 6'3 185lbs with low body fat. My girl is 19 days clean, and passed and shes quit thin. The difference is our usage patterns, she was at .1g per night, and I was about 1.5g from morning until night.

I'm just thinking I should wait until I self test clean, then freeze some urine? On the day of testing thaw out to room temp, and use that since they don't watch me in the bathroom? How could that not work?
 

HellsWindStaff

Dharma Initiate
Just tested myself, failed after 26 days cannabis free. I think it takes me about 45 days or so, and i'm 6'3 185lbs with low body fat. My girl is 19 days clean, and passed and shes quit thin. The difference is our usage patterns, she was at .1g per night, and I was about 1.5g from morning until night.

I'm just thinking I should wait until I self test clean, then freeze some urine? On the day of testing thaw out to room temp, and use that since they don't watch me in the bathroom? How could that not work?

Urine goes bad but not sure if freezing it would negate that or not, my amateur opinion is that it should totally work in theory unless the cold/time does something to urine I'm unaware of.

I've also always heard that CBD will spark a positive test. Not informed enough though.

Glad you are getting the help @Aimless Ryan , next time if you are worried load up on creatine in the days before the test. Standard flushing works for dip stip tests but lab tests, they test for vitamins, buoyancy, creatinine content (metabolized creatine). And load on B vitamins.

And then flush accordingly. Your urine should pass a lab test but YMMV. It's because you are basically pissing out straight water but they can't tell because of the excess vitamins/creatinine. YMMV but I've known people with success with this.

For example: lets say your body breaks down THC at 60 milligrams per hour into your bladder waiting to be disposed (arbitrary numbers) and lets say that the test comes up positive at 60 milligrams. After an hour and you piss once, that piss is going to have 60 milligrams of THC.

Now if you are flushing, that first piss after the hour will be dirty (60 mg), but every subsequent piss will be emptying your bladder faster than your body can leech THC into it. Say now instead of an hour you have to piss again in a half hour because of all the water, now your piss is only at 30 mg, etc, etc. Working out is actually horrible to do right before a test because it causes more to leech from fat into bloodstream. If it's up in your fat and not in your piss, thats ok! If you keep pissing your bladder can never have enough THC in it to come up positive.

And that's why you load up on the extra stuff too because if you have extra amounts it will leech into your urine to an acceptable level and appear that you aren't flushing. Hope that makes sense I am not a scientist :lol:

Edit: @steama nice article, great minds !
 

biohacker

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I've also always heard that CBD will spark a positive test. Not informed enough though.

I certainly hope not! I've been using CBD isolate crystals and oil here and there, and read that unless you use it alot, it shouldn't be an issue. But fuck, thanks for reminding me because I better smarten up, because who really knows what's in the oil. My testing won't be for a while still anyway.

The answer is synthetic urine. Check this out. Sorry if you already have because I posted it earlier. :peace:

http://www.thewhizzinator.com/ :cool:

I don't think i'd want to use urine that isn't mine! lol But i've read that freezing your own clean works perfectly. Since I have time, i'm okay anyway, but might be good to have in your deep freeze "just in case"! :lol:
 

biohacker

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:o I've never seen those before! Then again my urine testing is usually for other things!

Thanks for the heads up!!!
 
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jay87

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If you are truly desperate and know that you'll fail... I've heard very good things about the Whizzinator.

It's the complete fake genitalia + synthetic urine + heating pad solution for people who plan to substitute their urine.


NSFW:
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http://www.thewhizzinator.com/lifestyle-products/the-whizzinator-in-white

Never used it, heard many good things, and if I was totally desperate this is probably what I'd try.

It also makes me laugh :rofl:

Edit: I see @steama already beat me to it!
 

biohacker

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So I didn't research much into these synthetic urine things, because i'd never use it, but I assume they have them for different genders and ages? I mean, how realistic can they be?
 

Madcap79

Jack of all trades, master of none.
In my personal experience.......pissing close to 'clear' in color hasn't raised any flags. DOT testing......Carry on. That's the last I'll say.
 
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biohacker

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I'm not sure the pain clinic wants to bust me, and the doctors office will be testing a lot more than just cannabis, full CBC, hormones etc. So yeah i guess the kind of testing matters.
 
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HellsWindStaff

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Oh if you are subbing you most definitely need to heat the urine up, if it's too cold that's grounds for a failure/inconclusive. Even standard dips have the temp strip fme. If you have urine and no access to a microwave (lol) stop at McDonald's or Tim Hortons for you :lol: and run it under hot water then stash. A pill bottle heated and stashed properly will maintain temp. If strapping to leg get heat packs and gum bands.

I got a leg strap from Quik Fix and use that. Much less intrusive than a whizzinator. I never had to actually use the piss though from it. I used Quik fix a few times tho for dip tests and no issues at all.

Funny enough my friend is subbing now from another friend and they always meet at bar. I though alcohol would fuck it up but he's done this for at least a year nonissue. He's safety guy not sure what kind of test.

@biohacker better safe than sorry! I was looking at CBD oils awhile back (personal use) and they all had disclaimer it would cause positive THC test but maybe that's not across board.
 

biohacker

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You guys are awesome, thanks! I don't trust the CBD oil I have, even though it's from the same place that has 20:1 and 1:1, this one has no cannabis except the CBD extract, but I feel such intense effects that it does concern me, so i'm just using it to help me in the initial stages of withdrawal (which are started to hit hard at the 27 day mark), but I have so much time that I will just drop the CBD oil after another few days.

Even if I test positive it's not the end of the world for me, this break is more voluntary than forced, but it's still motivation to abstain, as I wanna get back to my baseline anyway. It's more of a personal challenge, but at the same time I don't want to raise any red flags with my medical team, as i'm technically not a legal patient at the moment (surprise surprise my psychiatrist doesn't support cannabis, just poisons without any regard for side effects!). My family doctor is incredible and hates pharma and supports cannabis, which is amazing, but it's the specialists that don't, so his hands are tied. I'm expecting the pain clinic to prescribe me cannabis instead of more toxic shit. My family doctor has said that with cannabis scripts up, pharma painkillers have plummeted.
 

CalyxSmokr

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I don't have inside knowledge but I would not trust even cbd isolates to not set off a thc urine test. I am sure preparations exist that are 100% thc free but I suspect many are synthetic.
I have used synthetic urine 4 times and works great. They are serious about the temp though. I had to give a second sample last time because I thought having it in my crotch would bring it to body temp. NOT SO.
Use the attached handwarmer. Too hot or too cold is a no go.
 

biohacker

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I don't have inside knowledge but I would not trust even cbd isolates to not set off a thc urine test. I am sure preparations exist that are 100% thc free but I suspect many are synthetic.

I've been using the 99%+ pure CBD isolate crystals, but i'm now worried enough to just stop the CBD altogether, it's probably even holding back my detox. I feel high constantly, and not in a good way either, and it's getting old.
 

herbivore21

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I've been using the 99%+ pure CBD isolate crystals, but i'm now worried enough to just stop the CBD altogether, it's probably even holding back my detox. I feel high constantly, and not in a good way either, and it's getting old.
Man honestly, you've got nothing to worry about. Especially if it was shipped across state lines, that stuff did not have THC. I know of no demonstrable means by which CBD crystals of that purity could end up giving you a positive THC reading in a urine test after inhalation.

A lot of people who I've heard voice concerns about THC showing up in tests after consuming CBD are concerned about misunderstood claims from scientific literature that led some people to think that your stomach acid can somehow isomerize CBD into THC. If this were true, then you could conceivably end up with THC byproducts in your urine showing up in tests.

Of course, this was never shown in vivo and so remains unsupported by evidence. There is no evidence to suggest that CBD has ever been isomerized to THC in a human, nor any animals' stomach.

What do you mean by feeling 'high' btw? I've never felt any sense of being high from CBD without terps myself. From my understanding of your own medical scenario man, CBD sounds like just what you need!
 
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biohacker

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Thanks bro, I was actually using tincture from a place in Canada, and the crystals are from pharmabee. I put the crystals on my tongue since it said it could be vaped or eaten.

Since i only slept a few hours and feel like ass, i'm going to have some more tincture based on you easing my anxiety about it, not that I have much because this isn't a "life or death" test anyway, well it could be - but that's about 3 months away. Thanks herbicarniomnivore21! :D

EDIT: I feel tingles and medication sensations even without the CBD, but when I use the CBD :o Something is happening! It also puts my girlfriend to sleep...must be a paradoxical reaction as I know it stimulates adenosine?
 

cannabis.pro

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@Aimless Ryan glad to hear your appointment went well. Just wanted to let you know that you should talk with your doctor(s) about getting a medical cannabis recommendation. The Ohio program is still in the rules making process but there is nothing stopping a doctor from writing you a recommendation and making you a legal patient NOW. If you aren't willing to discuss this with your doctor(s), you could contact the Holistic Center in Toledo as there is a physician they could refer you to for a recommendation from my limited research. The argument for the medical cannabis use is simple in that when used with your opioids, you need less of the opioid for the same desired effect. Godspeed & Good luck!

Here is a link to the article I read about Ohio.
 
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Aimless Ryan

Came to read about grinders; fucked combustion
Honestly @cannabis.pro, cannabis doesn't help me much, and being high (on anything) puts me in real danger that could easily kill me. Here's a picture of one thing that can (and did) happen to me just because I was standing, while completely sober. (Tomorrow is the one-year anniversary.)

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I hurt like hell all the time. If cannabis relieved my pain, there wouldn't be an issue (except cost). Similarly, if cannabis didn't help at all, there wouldn't be an issue, either, because I would simply stop using it. My usage has decreased to almost nothing anyway (mostly unintentionally), precisely because I have had a small amount of prescribed oxycodone lately. But cannabis does help in some ways, like being able to wind down and sleep. It really doesn't help with pain.

I don't think I've shared this video in this thread already. Anyway, if it wasn't me in the video, I believe I would find this video unbelievably compelling. But since it is me in the video, I know better than anyone how compelling it should be. And if anyone ever doubts its legitimacy, I can provide an unedited (but occasionally sped up) version. Everything in this video was taken from a single raw footage file just over an hour long.

 
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Baron23

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Especially because I've had the impression that a lot of people here kinda look down on opioids

Not me. I look at them with a sideways and jaundiced eye, but I also know that they are absolutely required for some conditions and MJ is no substitute for opiods in those situations.

So, did you get your oxycodone?

As an aside, I truly wish you the best. You have a lot of challenges on your plate and seem to handle them way better than I would. I'm very glad you are here and that we can provide some level of support and info.

Best to you, mate.
 

Aimless Ryan

Came to read about grinders; fucked combustion
I got 30 of them (10 mg each) a couple days ago, but I still don't know if I've been accepted into the pain clinic. I've been consuming only 15-20 mg a day, but I need 30 mg; possibly 40 mg. I still hurt a whole bunch with 30 mg, but I'd still be OK with 30 mg daily.

Thanks. I seem to have acquired some kind of aptitude for handling this better than I would have in the past. It really helps to have my medical-professional friend with me.
 
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