Herb Grinders

[Justpassedu]

Hey friend! You can absolutely buy two and end up having a 3 piece and and a 5 piece. However, we only have mesh 60 and mesh 100. I have no idea what the actual difference is between those, but I can't imagine it would be all that useful?



It's literally the same grinder:

https://www.interplanetarydevelopment.com/products/super-weapon
https://www.interplanetarydevelopme...acement-screens/products/super-weapon-screens
https://www.kannastor.com/products/kannastor-multi-chamber-grinders.html

And when I say slightly more refined. I mean it's extremely slightly refined. Like only things you'd notice if you were analyzing this thing extremely close. But this was a few years back, so it's very likely the two grinders I linked above are exactly the same now. Other than price, color, and the logo on the top.

If you want more proof, go back a few pages and check out the logo on the "gr8tr" i sent to @ShitSnacks

Fair to say , your companies grinder definitely fill's a need for people looking for something on a budget and for that i'd recommend it but for people looking for a premium grinder i'd advise to purchase else wear.

 

[muunch]

Fair to say , your companies grinder definitely fill's a need for people looking for something on a budget and for that i'd recommend it but for people looking for a premium grinder i'd advise to purchase else wear.

What makes any of these other grinders "premium" and this one "budget"?

I still haven't found a reason to bother with another grinder. The coating sounds nice but I haven't had one "sticking" issue with my SW2 over 3 months. Various plates sounds nice but it's extra crap and the grind I get from a single turn in my sw2 is sufficient for all of my devices... I dunno.

 

[Justpassedu]

What makes any of these other grinders "premium" and this one "budget"?

I still haven't found a reason to bother with another grinder. The coating sounds nice but I haven't had one "sticking" issue with my SW2 over 3 months. Various plates sounds nice but it's extra crap and the grind I get from a single turn in my sw2 is sufficient for all of my devices... I dunno.

Exactly what you have listed , the ability to be able to change plates makes a worlds of a difference to me , this will ensure the teeth are fresh for years to come , coating is another plus and while it may take time for you to notice , my last grinder did not develop a sticking problem until i put around 10 oz's through it. I am unsure of the coating my GR8TR uses but so far its nice. I also like the fact that it does not use threading to screw and unscrew but rather another system to turn and grind that helps with it not getting clogged up. I guess you have to actually have other grinders in your hand to really notice the difference. I never said your sw2 is a bad grinder and i cannot tell you the longevity of it as they are kinda new to the game but i just feel it is not a premium imo and higher priced grinders offer options i personally like to see like we just stated. Also another thing that makes this more of a premium is the fact i can mix and match parts with it , use different tops , expand the chamber's to be larger , add a kief screen or not use one and large storage compartments if need be , even a glass window can be added not that it may be needed to see my grind when finished instead of having to open up the grinder to see my results 1st.

Edit * - this is what i was talking about when i had mentioned the threading : Friction / Residue rings - The key to an effortless grind time after time. The friction / residue rings on the GR8TR® grinder create an "Air Ride" by greatly reducing the friction created between the exterior wall of the press and inner wall of the grinding chamber. Not only do the pockets of air make for an easier grind, the rings also act as a residue collector - so the 50th grind is just like the first and your grinder requires very little maintenance and cleaning.

 

[InterplanetaryTanner]

Exactly what you have listed , the ability to be able to change plates makes a worlds of a difference to me , this will ensure the teeth are fresh for years to come , coating is another plus and while it may take time for you to notice , my last grinder did not develop a sticking problem until i put around 10 oz's through it. I am unsure of the coating my GR8TR uses but so far its nice. I also like the fact that it does not use threading to screw and unscrew but rather another system to turn and grind that helps with it not getting clogged up. I guess you have to actually have other grinders in your hand to really notice the difference. I never said your sw2 is a bad grinder and i cannot tell you the longevity of it as they are kinda new to the game but i just feel it is not a premium imo and higher priced grinders offer options i personally like to see like we just stated. Also another thing that makes this more of a premium is the fact i can mix and match parts with it , use different tops , expand the chamber's to be larger , add a kief screen or not use one and large storage compartments if need be , even a glass window can be added not that it may be needed to see my grind when finished instead of having to open up the grinder to see my results 1st.

Edit * - this is what i was talking about when i had mentioned the threading : Friction / Residue rings - The key to an effortless grind time after time. The friction / residue rings on the GR8TR® grinder create an "Air Ride" by greatly reducing the friction created between the exterior wall of the press and inner wall of the grinding chamber. Not only do the pockets of air make for an easier grind, the rings also act as a residue collector - so the 50th grind is just like the first and your grinder requires very little maintenance and cleaning.

I'm totally at a loss on what it is you're trying to say. But I guess I wasn't clear enough in my last post. The SWII and the GR8TR are made in the same factory with the same materials.

Also, since I've been with ID, I've learned that if anyone ever tells you something is "premium" 9 times out of 10 you're probably being overcharged for something unremarkable, but it's given a fancy name and a paragraph or so description on why you need it. You're being sold to. And it works. And we all fall for it because we can't help it.

Price =/= Quality
Premium =/= Quality
High Price = "Premium"

 

[duff]

Ordered a SW 2 yesterday.
Can't wait to give it a go.

 

[Justpassedu]

I'm totally at a loss on what it is you're trying to say. But I guess I wasn't clear enough in my last post. The SWII and the GR8TR are made in the same factory with the same materials.

Also, since I've been with ID, I've learned that if anyone ever tells you something is "premium" 9 times out of 10 you're probably being overcharged for something unremarkable, but it's given a fancy name and a paragraph or so description on why you need it. You're being sold to. And it works. And we all fall for it because we can't help it.

Price =/= Quality
Premium =/= Quality
High Price = "Premium"

Yes like you said your Sw2 and Gr8tr are made in the same factory with the same materials ( according to you ) and what i am telling you is there are different variations of the Gr8tr that you'r company does not offer and some may want when it comes to purchasing a grinder. Same materials does not mean same design. To me that makes it a premium when i have the options i want and ability to tweak it with options being offered. I do not think i am falling for anything as you'r company did not have what i personally wanted in a grinder. I don't need to spell it all out as it has been discussed many times in the thread along with my previous post and one can simply visit Kannastors webpage to see what they offer over the Interplanetary grinder or 2 being offered. Its as simple as that , you can keep defending your grinder to the death on the forum , like i said i do not think its a bad grinder , i even recommended it to a buddy who does not want to spend allot but your starting to draw me away from your company with your comebacks on saying it is the same grinder when it is not , same materials maybe and comparable to there lower end models but design wise there are some differences.

 

[Whissmu]

Surprise !, it arrived before time! It is soon to evaluate but .... the size of a first view is perfect for me , almost sure to remove the mesh and thus expands the volume of storage even if it takes empty ...
I do not I like it so much that when I turn it the top falls, if what you turn smooth is held but with shake it a little separates ... a magnet hard solution for me.
I imagine that is returning to normal, but it is Very soft when grinding I can grind my flowers with one hand! Serve today's date as a reference until I clean it I hop

 

[Shit Snacks]

Fair to say , your companies grinder definitely fill's a need for people looking for something on a budget and for that i'd recommend it but for people looking for a premium grinder i'd advise to purchase else wear.

Exactly what you have listed , the ability to be able to change plates makes a worlds of a difference to me , this will ensure the teeth are fresh for years to come , coating is another plus and while it may take time for you to notice , my last grinder did not develop a sticking problem until i put around 10 oz's through it. I am unsure of the coating my GR8TR uses but so far its nice. I also like the fact that it does not use threading to screw and unscrew but rather another system to turn and grind that helps with it not getting clogged up. I guess you have to actually have other grinders in your hand to really notice the difference. I never said your sw2 is a bad grinder and i cannot tell you the longevity of it as they are kinda new to the game but i just feel it is not a premium imo and higher priced grinders offer options i personally like to see like we just stated. Also another thing that makes this more of a premium is the fact i can mix and match parts with it , use different tops , expand the chamber's to be larger , add a kief screen or not use one and large storage compartments if need be , even a glass window can be added not that it may be needed to see my grind when finished instead of having to open up the grinder to see my results 1st.

Edit * - this is what i was talking about when i had mentioned the threading : Friction / Residue rings - The key to an effortless grind time after time. The friction / residue rings on the GR8TR® grinder create an "Air Ride" by greatly reducing the friction created between the exterior wall of the press and inner wall of the grinding chamber. Not only do the pockets of air make for an easier grind, the rings also act as a residue collector - so the 50th grind is just like the first and your grinder requires very little maintenance and cleaning.

Those features don't make it premium, the quality does, and the quality is the same. So I think that is where some are taking issue with you saying you'd only recommend SW to someone looking on a budget, which implies if they spend more money they get a better product, and I think that is totally subjective as the SW2 is not necessarily worse than the GR8TR in any way. You even mention the modularity as a premium feature, and the SW grinders absolutely have that, just because it's different in some ways (ie the two grinding pieces) does not make it any less premium in my view, in fact you actually seem to describe ways in which both can really be considered premium grinders from premium brands...

Also btw you can only change the bottom plate, teeth can still not be replaced for the top section... I also found mine begin to get dirty right away, so definitely not like the nonstick coating in SLX, the teeth and plate will certainly gum up the more I use it, ofcourse time will tell. I also don't know if the removable plate is so good the way to is designed since it doesn't seem to stay securely locked when screwed in, allowing it to loosen as little bits get in between the threads making it even looser. Again I obviously need to test it more, I just don't really agree with how you are laying things out comparing Interplanetary and Kannastor personally. Both are high quality grinder options

 

[Justpassedu]

Those features don't make it premium, the quality does, and the quality is the same. So I think that is where some are taking issue with you saying you'd only recommend SW to someone looking on a budget, which implies if they spend more money they get a better product, and I think that is totally subjective as the SW2 is not necessarily worse than the GR8TR in any way. You even mention the modularity as a premium feature, and the SW grinders absolutely have that, just because it's different in some ways (ie the two grinding pieces) does not make it any less premium in my view, in fact you actually seem to describe ways in which both can really be considered premium grinders from premium brands...

Also btw you can only change the bottom plate, teeth can still not be replaced for the top section... I also found mine begin to get dirty right away, so definitely not like the nonstick coating in SLX, the teeth and plate will certainly gum up the more I use it, ofcourse time will tell. I also don't know if the removable plate is so good the way to is designed since it doesn't seem to stay securely locked when screwed in, allowing it to loosen as little bits get in between the threads making it even looser. Again I obviously need to test it more, I just don't really agree with how you are laying things out comparing Interplanetary and Kannastor personally. Both are high quality grinder options

Shit Snacks to me it is premium over the Sw1 which was 1st being talked about and compared as it was stated to be $20 and the same thing and i personally do not find it the same. So a $20 Super Weapon 1 listed here - https://www.interplanetarydevelopment.com/collections/grinders/products/super-weapon , is the same exact thing as the $64 Gr8Tr - https://www.kannastor.com/products/gr8tr.html. Anyway the fact that i can grab a plate and do a fine grind or more of a medium grind and swap them makes it more premium to me , i do not see that being offered with the Sw for $20 or even the Sw2. Maybe the aluminum being used to make them is the same but to me having the ability to tailor my grind with ease makes it a worlds better for me. Now i also don't know if the Sw has this - "Friction / Residue rings - The key to an effortless grind time after time. The friction / residue rings on the GR8TR® grinder create an "Air Ride" by greatly reducing the friction created between the exterior wall of the press and inner wall of the grinding chamber. Not only do the pockets of air make for an easier grind, the rings also act as a residue collector - so the 50th grind is just like the first and your grinder requires very little maintenance and cleaning." but i am loving it so far. It is making grinding super easy for me and no grinder have i ever owned has had a system like this being used , its a 1st for me. This is my opinion , others may fell different but i wont beat it to death , i made my point , so did you and the company.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Shit Snacks to me it is premium over the Sw1 which was 1st being talked about and compared as it was stated to be $20 and the same thing and i personally do not find it the same. So a $20 Super Weapon 1 listed here - https://www.interplanetarydevelopment.com/collections/grinders/products/super-weapon , is the same exact thing as the $64 Gr8Tr - https://www.kannastor.com/products/gr8tr.html. Anyway the fact that i can grab a plate and do a fine grind or more of a medium grind and swap them makes it more premium to me , i do not see that being offered with the Sw for $20 or even the Sw2. Maybe the aluminum being used to make them is the same but to me having the ability to tailor my grind with ease makes it a worlds better for me. Now i also don't know if the Sw has this - "Friction / Residue rings - The key to an effortless grind time after time. The friction / residue rings on the GR8TR® grinder create an "Air Ride" by greatly reducing the friction created between the exterior wall of the press and inner wall of the grinding chamber. Not only do the pockets of air make for an easier grind, the rings also act as a residue collector - so the 50th grind is just like the first and your grinder requires very little maintenance and cleaning." but i am loving it so far. It is making grinding super easy for me and no grinder have i ever owned has had a system like this being used , its a 1st for me. This is my opinion , others may fell different but i wont beat it to death , i made my point , so did you and the company.

Yeah it should be product to product, ofcourse ID doesn't make a GR8TR version with the plates/grooves, however I don't think that makes it less premium, they just don't have that design in their tiers. The SLX doesn't have that design either, but I am finding it superior and more useful for me so far based on its own unique features (again need to test GR8TR more as I've said so grains of salt here). I would consider all 3 brands to be premium grinders, they just offer different features and benefits between them, including price points. Sorry if this seems to drag on, just wanted to clarify

 

[muunch]

Those high tech air ride proprietary tech things seem like a really, really fancy way to describe those dumb little bushings we were talking about a few pages ago. Which my SW2 has also. The bushings probably cost a fraction of a cent to make lol. It's a tiny tiny thin piece of plastic. I have no idea what that mishmashed paragraph is describing if it's not the bushing... which is my problem.

That fancy description is why it costs more?

If I wanted a finer grind I could flip it upside-down?

I do agree the only way to compare is to try them yourself.

 

[Justpassedu]

Those high tech air ride proprietary tech things seem like a really, really fancy way to describe those dumb little bushings we were talking about a few pages ago. Which my SW2 has also. The bushings probably cost a fraction of a cent to make lol. It's a tiny tiny thin piece of plastic. I have no idea what that mishmashed paragraph is describing if it's not the bushing... which is my problem.

That fancy description is why it costs more?

If I wanted a finer grind I could flip it upside-down?

I do agree the only way to compare is to try them yourself.

I actually see no bushings , i think it more describes the chamber that you twist to grind as it is some sort of system i have never seen in a grinder. Anyway to each is own , people are usually going to like what they have , some will be honest . I personally never stated the SW are bad in anyway , i am just stating what i like and i been doing this awhile now and trying many products along the way throughout the years. All i could do is say what i think , i respect all your opinions on the forum and wont drag it out anymore . I just know i don't purchase grinders very often , have tried many through out the years and i happen to really like the GR8TR using the vape plates so far , yes you can turn your grinder over which i have been doing in the past for a finer grind but this happens to make it a bit fluffier for me and just what i was looking for. I also have the Magic flight finishing grinder and that provides to small of a grind for me , this happens to be the perfect medium.

 

[snackmaster]

The "air ride" feature refers to those grooves. Reduces contact area between moving parts and gives a spot for gunk to go.

 

[Justpassedu]

The "air ride" feature refers to those grooves. Reduces contact area between moving parts and gives a spot for gunk to go.

Yes that is the part i was referring to and i have yet to had a gunk build up at all and my flower is very crystallized. I have had a small amount on the threads when i unscrew the bottom portion to retrieve my flowers but a small brush gets them right off.

 

[muunch]

No worries man. I'd definitely like to see and try one myself but I can't justify spending that kinda dough when what I have satisfies me. It is true even across the same devices people will prefer different grinds if they tamp or not and how they like airflow so it's whatever, it's not an objective thing for sure.

At least we both found grinders that fulfill our needs

I'll be heading back to LI in a few weeks btw. I lived there my entire life til 2 yrs ago when I moved to finish college. Maybe we can trade grinders. Or at the very least have a fat sesh

edit: thx for the picture @snackmaster i really had no idea what the description was saying but uh... you know how it goes...

 

[InterplanetaryTanner]

to me it is premium over the Sw1 which was 1st being talked about and compared as it was stated to be $20 and the same thing and i personally do not find it the same. So a $20 Super Weapon - is the same exact thing as the $64 Gr8Tr -

I think I've figured it out. Nothing more than a big misunderstanding of what I compared the Super Weapon too. Which was Kannastors "multi chamber grinders". NOT their Gr8tr

It's literally the same grinder:

https://www.interplanetarydevelopment.com/products/super-weapon
https://www.interplanetarydevelopme...acement-screens/products/super-weapon-screens
https://www.kannastor.com/products/kannastor-multi-chamber-grinders.html

 

[Justpassedu]

I think I've figured it out. Nothing more than a big misunderstanding of what I compared the Super Weapon too. Which was Kannastors "multi chamber grinders". NOT their Gr8tr

No hard feelings man , glad you took that 2nd look . Don't want to confuse anyone.

No worries man. I'd definitely like to see and try one myself but I can't justify spending that kinda dough when what I have satisfies me. It is true even across the same devices people will prefer different grinds if they tamp or not and how they like airflow so it's whatever, it's not an objective thing for sure.

At least we both found grinders that fulfill our needs

I'll be heading back to LI in a few weeks btw. I lived there my entire life til 2 yrs ago when I moved to finish college. Maybe we can trade grinders. Or at the very least have a fat sesh

edit: thx for the picture @snackmaster i really had no idea what the description was saying but uh... you know how it goes...

Sounds good buddy , I dunno if i want to trade but a fat sesh may be in the works, lmk when your coming via private message. I grew up on LI myself .

 

[abcd5432]

Just was about to chime in and let ya'll know you were completely talking about different products.

Sorry I feel like I started that comparing these products.

@Justpassedu
You are understanding my EXACT issue with grinders currently and my beef with a $100 SCS grinder. Why? I can get the same thing from another company for HALF the price.
I agree with your statement. I do consider them to be "basic" grinders. This is why I said for $25, it can be a good deal for many people.
But I agree, once you are comparing it to the GR8TR and the SLX, and other grinders that are now evolving even further, I wouldn't pay a similar price to a grinder with "more" features. Although interchangeable screens is nice.
But, that even furthers my beef against the SCS at a such an extremely high price point. I can't even get exchangeable screens, but with the SWII I do? That's insane....

I'll have more to say after 4/20 though when I have the GR8TR and then I'll need to pick up either the SWII or the Space Case to have a "traditional" grinder to compare to my SCS.

I just watched the GR8TR video again and am just so impressed of the functionality you get for the price of the product. I'm interested to see what @Shit Snacks prefers and what I end up liking and why. Can't wait to pick one up on 4/20.

If ya'll couldn't tell, I'm not happy spending $100+ on a grinder when there grinders that do more for less.

Edit: @Justpassedu
Do you use the interchangeable plates and what is the in person difference?

 

[Vitolo]

My original SCS (from week of release) the original small (small is now 1 5/8 inch...... but was when they began 2 inches... side note the medium is now 2 1/8 inch).
2 inches was perfect for me, and I will have to go up to medium if I ever need a new SCS.
Tonight was my yearly Iso bath for my SCS.
It grinds as smooth as glass!

 

[abcd5432]

My original SCS (from week of release) the original small (small is now 1 5/8 inch...... but was when they began 2 inches... side note the medium is now 2 1/8 inch).
2 inches was perfect for me, and I will have to go up to medium if I ever need a new SCS.
Tonight was my yearly Iso bath for my SCS.
It grinds as smooth as glass!

Medium SCS is nice. Just not sure it's $75 worth of nice now that I've seen what else is out there.

 

[kungfuron]

I have a large Titanium Space Case on the way, I hope it does the trick. It's mostly to grind up my material to make tinctures so I'm not too concerned if it's a little chunky.

 

[Justpassedu]

Just was about to chime in and let ya'll know you were completely talking about different products.

Sorry I feel like I started that comparing these products.

@Justpassedu
You are understanding my EXACT issue with grinders currently and my beef with a $100 SCS grinder. Why? I can get the same thing from another company for HALF the price.
I agree with your statement. I do consider them to be "basic" grinders. This is why I said for $25, it can be a good deal for many people.
But I agree, once you are comparing it to the GR8TR and the SLX, and other grinders that are now evolving even further, I wouldn't pay a similar price to a grinder with "more" features. Although interchangeable screens is nice.
But, that even furthers my beef against the SCS at a such an extremely high price point. I can't even get exchangeable screens, but with the SWII I do? That's insane....

I'll have more to say after 4/20 though when I have the GR8TR and then I'll need to pick up either the SWII or the Space Case to have a "traditional" grinder to compare to my SCS.

I just watched the GR8TR video again and am just so impressed of the functionality you get for the price of the product. I'm interested to see what @Shit Snacks prefers and what I end up liking and why. Can't wait to pick one up on 4/20.

If ya'll couldn't tell, I'm not happy spending $100+ on a grinder when there grinders that do more for less.

Edit: @Justpassedu
Do you use the interchangeable plates and what is the in person difference?

I agree , I have yet to really do much experimenting with the other plates , so far been really happy with the grind the vape plate is providing , nice and fluffy using no screen so I get all the crystals in there . I been noticing more taste now with my vapes due to the grind and a bit more even browning when finished. I was using my Mflb finishing grinder for a fine grind but sometimes it was a bit to fine , Glad to say I found a happy medium .

 

[abcd5432]

I agree , I have yet to really do much experimenting with the other plates , so far been really happy with the grind the vape plate is providing , nice and fluffy using no screen so I get all the crystals in there . I been noticing more taste now with my vapes due to the grind and a bit more even browning when finished. I was using my Mflb finishing grinder for a fine grind but sometimes it was a bit to fine , Glad to say I found a happy medium .

I actually meant screens sorry.
But seems like you don't use the screen. I need to try my second SLX without the screen and see if I notice a difference.

Also side note: Which vape are you using? My Minivap makes using any other vaporizer you listed feel like Meh!

 

[Justpassedu]

I actually meant screens sorry.
But seems like you don't use the screen. I need to try my second SLX without the screen and see if I notice a difference.

Also side note: Which vape are you using? My Minivap makes using any other vaporizer you listed feel like Meh!

Yeah I don't use the screens I have a few other grinders I use that have screens , this one is staying screenless. I have a # of vapes , just look at my signature below. I been using the grinder with all of them with great results . Had a minivap but got rid of it as I was not the biggest fan although it did hit really nice , it just didn't fit my personal needs . I have definitely been noticing a difference going screenless , it's not huge though but something there .

 

[cybrguy]

Well, I was gonna get a new SLX, but I used up my 420 budget over at DynaVap. Its already sittin there in a PuffitUp cart waiting to go. It still calls to me like a siren in the night.

Cybrguy...... Cybrguy.....