CalyxSmokr

Well-Known Member
how do you all use your aromatop?
I just put straight essential oils with no water. Do you all add water? seems like I just get more sizzle than increased vapor with added water and easier to spill
 

Vapor_Eyes

taste buds
how do you all use your aromatop?
I just put straight essential oils with no water. Do you all add water? seems like I just get more sizzle than increased vapor with added water and easier to spill
I don't have the aromatherapy cup but I know some people like to add plain beeswax to their essential oils. Once it melts and then cools back down there is no risk of spilling since the wax solidifies again.
 

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
I had the pleasure of meeting Andy at the Champs show this week. He's a very cool dude.:cool: I couldn't resist and picked up a sweet piece for a bargain price. Thanks Andy!
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CalyxSmokr

Well-Known Member
I don't have the aromatherapy cup but I know some people like to add plain beeswax to their essential oils. Once it melts and then cools back down there is no risk of spilling since the wax solidifies again.
I love the sound of that but the number of times I have spilled straight essential oils makes we way too skittish to put beeswax. Essential oil will evaporate off spilled on the enano but beeswax sounds like a time consuming disaster. I even think patchouli or something thick and pungent like that might need a long long burnoff. I wonder if it isn't so much of a problem though?
Now I just put 60-75 drops of mixed oils and that reduces over a few days to a week. I top it off for awhile and then just dump it when it gets too old and dark.
 

dgmulf

Well-Known Member
When using the dry stem, how does the E-nano rank with respect to the temperature of the vapor by the time it hits your lungs? There is a fairly short and direct path from the heating element to your mouth, so I'd be worried about harsh vapor; how much of a problem is this?

The main reason I'm in the market for a vape is to save my lungs from the damage of smoking, so I want to make sure I do it right.
 

BabyFacedFinster

Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
Sweet, I had no idea you could use a whip! I'm so glad this forum is friendly to noobs like me, haha. I'm officially sold on the E-nano, I'm ordering one tonight. Now do I splurge on a premium finish, or not? Hmm...

First off @djmulf, welcome to the nano site. My favorite thread in the whole FC.

Finish is a matter of preference. Whatever you like, go for it. They all work equally well. I have a standard walnut and that works just fine for me. Snappo offers some beautiful exotic blanks that Andy can turn into a nano.

Some things worth considering. If you want to make sure that you get a cool hit then you have a few options. Some folks just use the dry stem as is and have no issues. I tend to prefer a cooler hit with some moisture so not to dry out my throat. The accessory section of the epic site has glass gongs in either the 14mm or 18mm size. Once you match one to some glass that you have or may chose to have then you are all set! Great big cool hits. I prefer the adjustable gongs over fixed screen, plus they are cheaper.

Another option is one of the these.
http://www.dhgate.com/product/pinna...=edm|auto|auto_shipping_2017|browse1|20170210

Very basic, small bubbler but I find it so compact and easy to use with my nano. You can also check out the "cheap glass bubbler" thread for some great options for some larger bubblers.

I would also recommend a 5 pack of basket screens and maybe a spare power cord. I have had my spare for a few years now and have never used it, but if something were to go wrong, 95% of the time it would be the cord. Worth it for me.

Also, FCLOVE will get you free shipping.

Enjoy. Welcome to the group.
 
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Vapor_Eyes

taste buds
Sweet, I had no idea you could use a whip! I'm so glad this forum is friendly to noobs like me, haha. I'm officially sold on the E-nano, I'm ordering one tonight. Now do I splurge on a premium finish, or not? Hmm...
Get the premium finish, you will be giving your E-Nano loving glances for a long time so spend a little extra now.

If you want to cool the vapor and stay dry you might want to look into a cheap j-hook and a matching 14mm or 18mm GonG. I like 14mm for the simple fact that using a 18-14mm reducer is more elegant than using a 14-18mm expander. A lot of people prefer 18mm.

http://dankstop.com/accessories/gla...-adapters/grav-labs-14mm-18mm-j-hook-adapter/
 

Jimmer144

Sargeant REG
I forgot how enjoyable the Nano is around level 6.0-6.2, if you have like medium to dry material, I think this temp is where the Nano really shines. The flavor is incredible and vapor is thick and rich without being too hot, perfect to start your day with, no burnout feeling, plus if you trying to for stealth there's very little smell with these lower temps.
 

howie105

Well-Known Member
One of the things I enjoy about the Nano is its ability to adapt to different load sizes and temperature settings. It runs .03g to .08g with an easy to predict level of performance using just a little screen adjustment with little need to adjust the heater control. Of course that control option is always there if individual preferences dictate such and its always good to have options.
 

dgmulf

Well-Known Member
Another option is one of the these.
http://www.dhgate.com/product/pinna...=edm|auto|auto_shipping_2017|browse1|20170210

Very basic, small bubbler but I find it so compact and easy to use with my nano. You can also check out the "cheap glass bubbler" thread for some great options for some larger bubblers.

If you want to cool the vapor and stay dry you might want to look into a cheap j-hook and a matching 14mm or 18mm GonG.

Thanks for the suggestions! I'm also wondering if a mouth-pull technique is possible with the dry stem? As in, sucking the vapor into your mouth like smoking a cigarette, to give it a chance to cool a bit, then inhaling?
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
@dgmulf yes your draw would be similar to drawing from a cigarette then hold your vapor in for 5 seconds or so. A slow steady draw is best with the nano. If the draw is too tight, you may have put too much cannabis in your stem. That will cause a restricted feel to the draw. This unit needs a light pack because you need to have enough airflow - don't pack your load too tight.

Try different amounts of product and different temps. Probably stay under temp 7. Some have combusted at too high of a temp.

This unit is a wonderful piece to have in your vaporizing arsenal. A second on a j hook. A nice j hook will work with several other vaporizers as long as you have GonGs to fit your other units

I'm going to add: if you are a cannabis smoker, you need to stop the combusting or you will not feel the whole high from your vapor. There's threads that dedicate themselves to explaining that in particular. A very good read.
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Stop combustion and keep on vaporizing - your health will be better for it.:2c::leaf:
 
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flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
I forgot how enjoyable the Nano is around level 6.0-6.2, if you have like medium to dry material, I think this temp is where the Nano really shines. The flavor is incredible and vapor is thick and rich without being too hot, perfect to start your day with, no burnout feeling, plus if you trying to for stealth there's very little smell with these lower temps.

So true about the lower temp vaping with nano. I like to do the same - especially mid day when I'm working at home or have other shit to do.

Keep in mind with this and other suggested temp settings that there are differences in what one nano will do compared to another at same temp, in addition to whatever personal preferences.

For instance, my low temp heady light buzz setting is about 5.75 this time of year (now colder, about 5.5 in warmer months). This stays the same on this particular nano, but is different on one of my others. What I'm saying is that although my settings may be different than yours or anyone else's (or on any other nano), but should stay constant for you or me or any specific nano.

One other tip.... Sorry if I just mentioned it in this thread recently. :shrug: Save the ABV from these lighter sessions to mix with heavier sessions later in the day or soon after (day or two, airtight). I mix about 1/3 of this to fresh when I move up the dial a notch later (sometimes 1/2 & 1/2 if stash is dwindling). OR, keep this ABV separate from the rest for higher intensity edibles or whatever you make with your ABV.
 

Jimmer144

Sargeant REG
Yeah I pretty always reuse the abv from low temp sessions, I usually mix it in with a bowl of fresh stuff and toss into my CF or Air to finish. I also notice the buzz even on level 6.0 is stronger than the majority of vapes at those temps, which is why i pretty only use the Nano if i'm going for a lighter buzz, seems like a waste of material with other vaporizers that mostly specialize with high temps to work consistently.
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Yeah I pretty always reuse the abv from low temp sessions, I usually mix it in with a bowl of fresh stuff and toss into my CF or Air to finish. I also notice the buzz even on level 6.0 is stronger than the majority of vapes at those temps, which is why i pretty only use the Nano if i'm going for a lighter buzz, seems like a waste of material with other vaporizers that mostly specialize with high temps to work consistently.

Hear ya. But, nano is my high temp vape, too. Really have trouble going back to conduction (except VapCap which is a whole different beast), and nano just does it all so well!
 

Haze Mister

Verdant Bloomer
Manufacturer
Hey folks. Just dropping in to report that my e-nano is still going strong, and it sees a lot of use. It's nearly perfect, including how it looks on our coffee table in our living room... The subtle LED light is a nice touch. I was worried it would be one of those glaring bright blue LEDs that all the chinese gadgets use but it is a dim purple-blue light that respects our sensitivities in the late hours. I love it how it dims or brightens as you turn the heat dial.

Here are some suggestions on improvements I'd like to see fo the next generation:

-The e-nano gets quite hot and can be uncomfortable to hold unless you hold it around the bottom end. I run it at around 5.6 as I use almost exclusively herb. I have the cherry wood version. A thicker log maybe could fix this and also make the e-nano more stable when putting down on a table without the base ... Otherwise, cooling fins around the inside of the steel jacket ?

-A deeper version of the fixed glass screen would be good. I know from using the adjustable screen stem that the e-nano can easily deal with twice the amount that the current fixed screen stem holds. The glass screen is way preferable for me otherwise, as it is much easier to keep free of blockage.

-Some upgrades to the cable would be great:
-braided flexible cord (with the same generous length) to prevent twisting and for a better look and feel
-a dial with stiff, notched clicky action or a way to lock the dial at your desired setting. As it is, it is easily turned accidentally when moving the e-nano around, occasionally resulting in horrible combustion. :ugh:

Finally, a 220v version of the cable would make all of us in other parts of the globe happy. The e-nano is small enough to take to a friend's house for a session and having to carry the 220v transformer is a put-off.

I will make some fixed glass screens with a deeper bowl to see what the demand is for them. I will post here when they are available on the website which should be later this week.


Yes please! Darn I wish I had waited, got one recently shipped over to UK and it's a little shallow for me. Otherwise, the glass screen is the way to go.

Cleaning the fixed glass screen stem: I use a length of stiff, thick steel wire which has had one end twisted into a hook using pliers. I use this tool with a small ball of steel wool and some alcohol to scrape clean the inside of the stem. Any blockages of the screen can be easily cleared with a pin or other pointy thing.
 
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Vapor_Eyes

taste buds
The subtle LED light is a nice touch. I was worried it would be one of those glaring bright blue LEDs that all the chinese gadgets use but it is a dim purple-blue light that respects our sensitivities in the late hours. I love it how it dims or brightens as you turn the heat dial.
That's actually not an LED, it's a neon bulb. I don't want to come off as too pedantic, but that's exactly the type of small detail that Andy considered when designing the E-Nano.

I for one hate bright glaring LED lights in my house but deal with them grudgingly. The soft, gentle glow of my nano's neon bulb is not disturbing in the least, in fact it's comforting as I know my nano is patiently waiting to be put to use.
 

dgmulf

Well-Known Member
I'm going to add: if you are a cannabis smoker, you need to stop the combusting or you will not feel the whole high from your vapor. There's threads that dedicate themselves to explaining that in particular. A very good read.

Not sure exactly what you mean by that, but I'm curious. Do you have a link to one of the threads you're talking about?
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
First of all, welcome to FC! :wave: This is definitely the place to be if you are trying to make the switch to vaporizing -- lots of knowledge here, and friendly people who can offer suggestions and encouragement. Congrats on making the switch to vaping -- it's one of the best things you can do for your health, and if you stick with it you'll find it can be very rewarding in many other ways as well.

The transition from smoking to vaporizing can be a rough one for some people. It's all about retraining your brain. Right now, your brain is wired to "get off" to combustion. With vaporizing, your brain recognizes there's something missing (namely, the asphyxiants and other bad chemicals like polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons) and so it has a hard time "getting off". All because it's been trained for years to think that those asphyxiants and other bad things are part of the high, when in fact they aren't doing anything but depriving your brain of oxygen (and doing other bad things to your health as well). This is all exacerbated by the fact that you mixed tobacco in with your joints, so your brain is missing that nicotine buzz as well (which, combined with combustion asphyxiants, likely caused that "headrush and instant relief" that you miss).

My suggestions would be to, one, stick with vaporizing only for a while. If you "cheat" and light up before you completely make the transition to vapor, it will just make it more difficult to rewire your brain to get off to vaping. Maybe even take a break from consuming MJ at all for a few days, before continuing with vaping only (if you can take a break, that is. Some folks can't, for medical reasons or otherwise). It would likely make the transition process easier.

My second bit of advice would be to use high temperatures. I'd recommend it to anyone trying to transition from smoke to vapor, but especially to you since you're using it to help you fall asleep. In general, the higher the temperature, the more sedative the experience. Also, indica strains will provide a more sedative, couch-lock kind of high as well, which would help you to get to sleep.

@dgmulf I copied this from a fellow FCer pertaining to fucking combustion. You need to stop the smoking of cannabis to feel the full medicine from your product. I tried to copy the link and couldn't get my iPad to do it. I didn't feel like typing up a whole explanation. This explains it pretty well.

Try high temps to get you off of combustion.

There's a thread in the cannabis discussion area that's says stopping or fucking combustion in fact there are two different threads. It pops up often on FC.

Edit
  • It's called Trying to switch to vaping. It's like on the 7th or 8th page.
 
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flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Hey folks. Just dropping in to report that my e-nano is still going strong, and it sees a lot of use. It's nearly perfect, including how it looks on our coffee table in our living room... The subtle LED light is a nice touch. I was worried it would be one of those glaring bright blue LEDs that all the chinese gadgets use but it is a dim purple-blue light that respects our sensitivities in the late hours. I love it how it dims or brightens as you turn the heat dial.

Here are some suggestions on improvements I'd like to see fo the next generation:

-The e-nano gets quite hot and can be uncomfortable to hold unless you hold it around the bottom end. I run it at around 5.6 as I use almost exclusively herb. I have the cherry wood version. A thicker log maybe could fix this and also make the e-nano more stable when putting down on a table without the base ... Otherwise, cooling fins around the inside of the steel jacket ?

-A deeper version of the fixed glass screen would be good. I know from using the adjustable screen stem that the e-nano can easily deal with twice the amount that the current fixed screen stem holds. The glass screen is way preferable for me otherwise, as it is much easier to keep free of blockage.

-Some upgrades to the cable would be great:
-braided flexible cord (with the same generous length) to prevent twisting and for a better look and feel
-a dial with stiff, notched clicky action or a way to lock the dial at your desired setting. As it is, it is easily turned accidentally when moving the e-nano around, occasionally resulting in horrible combustion. :ugh:

Finally, a 220v version of the cable would make all of us in other parts of the globe happy. The e-nano is small enough to take to a friend's house for a session and having to carry the 220v transformer is a put-off.




Yes please! Darn I wish I had waited, got one recently shipped over to UK and it's a little shallow for me. Otherwise, the glass screen is the way to go.

Cleaning the fixed glass screen stem: I use a length of stiff, thick steel wire which has had one end twisted into a hook using pliers. I use this tool with a small ball of steel wool and some alcohol to scrape clean the inside of the stem. Any blockages of the screen can be easily cleared with a pin or other pointy thing.

All great ideas, but something to keep in mind..... the nano has been about the same price for more than 3 years. Would you have bought one before what you know now if the price was 50% higher (floating around $300 instead of $200)? Or, even more?

I like the fact that Andy has a solid product at a great price point, issues you mention or not. Might be nice if he offered some of these things as options for someone that wants to pay a premium, but that would still add to production woes (and other issues) and probably a bump in price on the standard models.

The one thing I do agree with you about is fixed screen stems (at least going on what I've seen here lately). That should be an easy fix. But, truth be told I have a few of the older ones and almost never use them. Adjustable SS screens FTW!
 
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