Not sure yet, too early to say. I believe I can make the $200-$300 range though.
The Nomad From Morwood
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Not sure yet, too early to say. I believe I can make the $200-$300 range though.
sixstringsmash
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The only worry I am having with this vaporizer right now is that I'm worried when I do finally get my hands on this thing it will be too beautiful for me to vape out of and put my filthy lips on that I'll just have to end up getting it framed or something.
Hahah, well.. thank you I think!
But.. the beauty of using natural materials is that they really do get better with use/age. Just imagine that when you get your vape, it's only half way done the crafting process. You have to do the patina part, heh.
So I know it's still super early but I thought I'd throw the question out there.
IIRC you said this vape would be distributed the same way as the Okin, in the kind of email lottery fashion you do every month. (I can't believe I got one of two when I tried, what luck)
But as of this year that system has changed for the Okin and we can just order them as we please.
What does that mean for this vape? Will you go back to the lottery system for its initial release? Will there be a waitlist?
IIRC you said this vape would be distributed the same way as the Okin, in the kind of email lottery fashion you do every month. (I can't believe I got one of two when I tried, what luck)
But as of this year that system has changed for the Okin and we can just order them as we please.
What does that mean for this vape? Will you go back to the lottery system for its initial release? Will there be a waitlist?
StormyPinkness
Rhymenocerous ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
Wow, I'm not sure there's been a design yet I wouldn't of bought. Amazing.Alright, some updates!
After making some physical prototypes in the design of my last concept art, with the steel sleeve, etc.. I've decided to make some changes.
First, the steel sleeve was too cold, and heavy. It really didn't feel very good in the hand.
The sleek flush exterior design also didn't appeal to me. It looked clean with a touch of modern in the drawing, but in real life it was a bit boring, too modern, too clean. That solid "block" shape made the entire device feel chunky. What works as a 2D side profile, may not work as a 3D object...
...so I went back to the drawing board to re-consider the core aesthetic theme, and figure out exactly what design elements I was missing.
After some thought, this is what I came up with.. Two examples.. on the left, a bit more wild, with red padauk wood and walnut, and on the right a more matching colour scheme.
It mixes in an element of recycling. Which I think is central to the cyber punk theme.. building upon the past, a mash-up of old an new.. neon signs over art-deco buildings (Blade Runner).
I am going back to Kraft paper laminate for the sleeves, they have the perfect amount of springyness to allow for a smooth sliding fit without wear. They are warm to the touch, with a unique texture. And they can be customized and replaced with ease. Painted with black milk paint and sanded smooth, they pretty much look identical to black patina'd steel, but with a better feel and much lighter weight.
One idea I have is to get antique Japanese block printed books for making custom sleeves by pasting the old text/images/paper over top of the kraft paper. (shown above)
As far as durability is concerned, well you can think of the kraft paper laminate as a softer version of Micarta, and Micarta is damn tough. I could use resin with paper/cloth for an even stronger sleeve if it proves necessary.
The step down between the sleeve and wooden body give the entire design a much better look, IMO. Not sure why... but it just does.
The underlying wooden body will be all one piece, so you can slide the sleeve up or down.
The "module" feature is still very much alive. The red and orange blocks of wood at the very bottom of the vapes shown above are the modules, which have been plugged into the main body, and partially covered with the sleeve. Different exotic woods can be used for the modules to give different looks. To remove the module, just slide the sleeve up and pull the module out. The gold plated terminal plugs hold the modules in there very solidly.
The glass stem "collar" (heat sink lookin' thing) will be made from wood. A metal one would make the vape too top heavy.
Glass stems may also be switched out for more fancy wood mouthpieces, with more organic flowing lines... sort of like a nice tobacco pipe mouthpiece.
I made the frosted LED light bigger, seems to work better once you see it in person. Remember that this entire vape fits in the palm of your hand... so as you scale it down from what's on the computer screen, things can look different.
Sharper edges all around. The rounder the corners, the worse things got, haha. I played with all sorts of radii. The contrast between the slightly rounded edges of the kraft paper sleeve, and the sharper edges of the underlying wood body is really nice.
Are.... are you fucking with us? This thing is going to be like a little sticky brick jr or lily? How fucking amazing it would be to have the option of battery or butane. I have a love/hate relationship with both. I'd love to try charcoal too. Wow.
@ZC Not sure yet.. still too early to say. One thing is for sure, I'm designing this from the ground up for faster production on my end, I hope, heh. I definitely won't sacrifice quality... but just a smarter design. The goal being to decrease wait times. I think that the Okin order system needs some adjustments, so I probably won't go back to that with this new vape.
@StormyPinkness Hahah, thats the idea! I was thinkin' that if you were to take out the battery for non-electronic use.. you would have the battery compartment to fill with additional add-ons.. herb chamber..charcoal holder..extra stem..etc.. Just a thought.
I've got a new prototype modeled after the newest concept work, it's feelin' like the one..will post pics soon!
@StormyPinkness Hahah, thats the idea! I was thinkin' that if you were to take out the battery for non-electronic use.. you would have the battery compartment to fill with additional add-ons.. herb chamber..charcoal holder..extra stem..etc.. Just a thought.
I've got a new prototype modeled after the newest concept work, it's feelin' like the one..will post pics soon!
StormyPinkness
Rhymenocerous ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
The flower goes in the stem normally right? For the butane module would it go in the actual module like a brick vape? Closer to the heat and farther from the mp so there's a longer cool down path? I'm just thinking about my other brick vapes though, I may be off on that. I remember reading in the Sticky Brick and Triihouse threads some people thought right angles in the vapor path helped cooling. No idea about that though.
This thing is definitely exciting and keeps getting better.
@StormyPinkness , That's exactly what I'm thinkin' herb chamber in the actual module itself. But even if it needed to be in the stem, it would only be a small difference I think, perhaps not enough to notice.
subway13029
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so are we talking a hybrid battery/butane or.did i misread something?
Not both at the same time, but either/or via swappable modules. Would be awesome if it works out right.
^ yep!
I think it'll be important to remember that no one vaporizer can do it all. I generally dislike multi-tools because they're never the best at any one thing, they're only just OK at a bunch of things. Not ideal, IMO. I would rather have specialized tools designed to do one thing very well.
So, there must be a balance. I tend to go a bit wild with ideas... then reel myself in to a more practical place.
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I agree completely, much prefer purpose built specialized tools myself. I like to think specialized doesn't mean not versatile though. Case and point - the Vapman, cool butane powered portable vape; but then he comes out with the heating station for home use. Modularity is a great thing, and I think we're all excited to see where you go with this little gem.
namasteIII
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These words are good words.
little maggie
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Why did I look at this thread? There are so many new designs coming out and this is fascinating. Add me to the list. I am no longer working so I'll have to save money for a while. Maybe we could make monthly prepayments while you're developing it or something like that.
Here's one of my real life prototypes. Just a mock-up... but this is what the final version will look like, pretty much. I used an old Japanese tobacco box for the sleeve material, but I'll have to use something different in the future.. perhaps a few different models; plain raw Kraft paper, painted, maybe Japanese washi paper coverings, custom weathering on request. Either way, this is the vibe!
Size, as you can see, is very small. Even though I've kept the rather sharp edges, it still feels comfortable in the hand.
Body on this one is walnut, with padauk heater module and stem. The mouthpiece on this is a dark blue'd steel, but I'll most likely stick to glass for the final version.
Size, as you can see, is very small. Even though I've kept the rather sharp edges, it still feels comfortable in the hand.
Body on this one is walnut, with padauk heater module and stem. The mouthpiece on this is a dark blue'd steel, but I'll most likely stick to glass for the final version.
Here's one of my real life prototypes. Just a mock-up... but this is what the final version will look like, pretty much. I used an old Japanese tobacco box for the sleeve material, but I'll have to use something different in the future.. perhaps a few different models; plain raw Kraft paper, painted, maybe Japanese washi paper coverings, custom weathering on request. Either way, this is the vibe!
Size, as you can see, is very small. Even though I've kept the rather sharp edges, it still feels comfortable in the hand.
Body on this one is walnut, with padauk heater module and stem. The mouthpiece on this is a dark blue'd steel, but I'll most likely stick to glass for the final version.
Just... Yes. 100% Yes.
Southern Chef
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I'm in!!!
RelaxedNow
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@Dan Morrison, I really like the "old friend" look that you're giving this. Custom weathering even? Nice!
Thanks!
I should mention that the thought of "factory weathering" is sort of weird to me.. but I just like the look so much I want them to come like that new, hahah. I've always found it kinda cheesy that some jeans come with pre-worn knees..etc... So, we'll see where it goes.
nondarb
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The worst is "relic'ed" guitars. Paying $150-200+ to sand wear marks, grub up the fretboard and and add some dings!
Your mock up is very tasteful though, the sleeve is what adds the retro/relic vibe and since thats easily swapped it seems you could suit nearly all interested parties.
@nondarb , Ah man.. yeah.. that sounds awful.
Weathering is really an art in itself. I've seen it done really well in prop-making, or Japanese tsuba craft.. but like you mentioned, it's often done very poorly.
The more I think about it, the more I don't think it's a good idea to send out pre-weathered sleeves. Give it some hard use, perhaps treating the sleeve a bit harshly, and you'll get there naturally!
Weathering is really an art in itself. I've seen it done really well in prop-making, or Japanese tsuba craft.. but like you mentioned, it's often done very poorly.
The more I think about it, the more I don't think it's a good idea to send out pre-weathered sleeves. Give it some hard use, perhaps treating the sleeve a bit harshly, and you'll get there naturally!
NickDlow
Log Hog
It's a bit hard to treat harshly considering I treat your vapes like treasure. Though idk how I feel about pre-weathered either. It's a catch 22. But I'll do my damndest to try and get that look to it. You can bet on that.
NizzyJones
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Some are legit road worn. I was giving a salesman shit about it once and he pulled one off the wall and showed me where the musician had signed it (not a big name but still).
On topic: Continues to look amazing. Incredibly small form factor.