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DreamHaze

Psychonaughty
Just keep those batteries on stand-by because from the sounds of it you'll need a lot of batteries on deck :)

Oh mos def hahaha
I'm sure to buy another extra 2 batteries in a month or two, as well as a larger 18650 power bank. Maybe something that hold 4-6, whenever i buy a new tactical pouch (7"hx4"w) with a belt loop that is. I've been researching trying to find the perfect complete travel pouches and narrowed it down to like 2.
Gonna get something that will be able to hold that power bank, the air, a stem or two, 2-3x 6 dram capsules (one for avb,) a usb/micro usb retractable charger, small usb ac adapter, my omicron v4, a few wax wallets, an extra coil or 2, a few alcohol prep pads, my mmj rec, a usb vv pass through, a silicone whip with a 1/2"ID to fit over the solo stem maybe 1.5 feet, and idk what else, but i can't wait to see myself lmfao
 

DreamHaze

Psychonaughty
Well, i finally got my Air today! I woke up early and waited for like 2 hours til i had it handed to me haha
This thing is tiny! I didn't expect it to feel like it does. It's feels lighter than my tiny Omicron V4 900mah, even though it weighs about an oz more. Took it with me to class today which i left early cause i felt sick. As i was walking to the store i turned her on to the first level and packed her with some Gelato 41. Super smooth, great airflow. I've heard people saying they'd had to pull the stem out a little to get better hits, but my stem was snug and down to the bottom of the heating chamber, no restricted airflow at all. Love how the stems fit snug inside the unit too! Walked past some cops nonchalant too lol


What pouches have you been looking at?

Well i narrowed it down to this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222242218077

This was the other one i was thinking about getting before i stumbled up that other one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tactical-Mo...11dec74&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=222242218077

They're real cheap too!
 

OF

Well-Known Member
Well, i finally got my Air today!

Took it with me to class today which i left early cause i felt sick.

Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.....whatever you say.......

Hearing my Air (or any vape for that matter) calling me can effect how I feel about what I'm doing as well, not that I suggest you use me as a character reference.

I used to work with a guy who'd 'call in well'. Tell the boss 'I feel too good to go to work today'. And mean it. Sometimes he'd claim vision problems, 'I just can't see going to work....'. Fun guy for sure.

Glad you're enjoying your Air, it's a solid unit for sure. Be sure to check it out through a WT, you can experiment with this using the plastic top stems, they mate with 14mm GonG fittings.

Regards,

OF
 

Exanas

Well-Known Member
Hey guys!

I just got my Arizer Air yesterday and love it so far (with an extra battery and a grinder). I used to vape occasionally with my buddy's Arizer Air, and I just took the financial plunge to buy one. :p

However, I've noticed that I suck some plant material in my mouth/lungs with it, which I'd like to avoid. What are good screens to get? I noticed that people recommend multiple screens, do you use a screen for a few weeks then throw them out or something? Or reuse them and clean them somehow?

Also, I'm not sure what to get regarding a:

- water pipe/bong to make the vapor cooler (I think this would help me, at higher temps I really start coughing/gagging for some reason)

- charging dock (I realized this is necessary because the included charger doesn't charge a standalone battery)

Thanks guys! :)
 

sickmanfraud

Well-Known Member
The first thing I would try regarding the vapor temperature, would be to get a Solo stem (I prefer bent) and see if that cools the vapor enough.

When I first got My Air I juggled two batteries, making sure the one in the unit was also charged. That was a royal PITA. I bought a Luc 4 Charger from Efest. Works great.

You can buy pre cut screens for the Air from just about any of the FC sponsors.
 

DreamHaze

Psychonaughty
Hey guys!

I just got my Arizer Air yesterday and love it so far (with an extra battery and a grinder). I used to vape occasionally with my buddy's Arizer Air, and I just took the financial plunge to buy one. :p

However, I've noticed that I suck some plant material in my mouth/lungs with it, which I'd like to avoid. What are good screens to get? I noticed that people recommend multiple screens, do you use a screen for a few weeks then throw them out or something? Or reuse them and clean them somehow?

Also, I'm not sure what to get regarding a:

- water pipe/bong to make the vapor cooler (I think this would help me, at higher temps I really start coughing/gagging for some reason)

- charging dock (I realized this is necessary because the included charger doesn't charge a standalone battery)

Thanks guys! :)


I recommend buying domed screens off ebay. There's this user i've bought from called everythingmustgoco, and he sent me like 5 extra screens or so. These to me are a must have. I clean and reuse them as much as i can, but sometimes there's just too much resin and i got to throw them out. This is after months of use tho (5 screens lasted me 2 years)

Look into getting a D020 bubbler, and a 14mm to 18mm glass adapter. That all together should be about 60 bucks. I use it with my air like i did with my solo, dry and no water.

For a charging dock, i recommend getting a 18650 power bank. Just search that up on google. Got one that can can hol two 18650 batteries on it's way now. That cost me like $10

btw OF, way ahead of ya' haha
been using the black tip air stems since i had the solo
 
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sickmanfraud

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I recommend buying domed screens off ebay. There's this user i've bought from called everythingmustgoco, and he sent me like 5 extra screens or so. These to me are a must have. I clean and reuse them as much as i can, but sometimes there's just too much resin and i got to throw them out. This is after months of use tho (5 screens lasted me 2 years)

You can clean screens using ISO or ethanol. Soak, scrub and good as new!
 

OF

Well-Known Member
You can clean screens using ISO or ethanol. Soak, scrub and good as new!

True enough, but IMO it's much easier to stick with SS screens and "Flame" them clean. Just grip them on the edge with 'metal fingers' (say that old roach clip you no longer use?) and 'nuke it until it glows'. That is heat it with your torch type lighter until the mesh glows red.....don't be shy here, you can't hurt the screen (in fact it makes the surface a bit tougher by building up the oxide layer).

When it cools simply brush (or blow) the ash off and vape on! No ISO, scrubbing or fuss needed.

In practice, since flat screens are so cheap, I swap them out until I have a small jar full before stopping the run to flame them as a group, domed screens (like with Solo/Air) I pull out with a safety pin with the end bent to make a hook. Very easy to make, using the same torch heat the pin tip for 3/16 inch or so and when it's glowing tap it on the side of the tip with the back side of a teaspoon. When glowing it bends very easily and stays put without losing it's shape.

OF
 

fubar

Ancient and opiniated inhaler
I've heard people saying they'd had to pull the stem out a little to get better hits, but my stem was snug and down to the bottom of the heating chamber

You might soemtimes see char (black abv) on the top of the bud from radiant heat if you push it too close to the oven. The inverse square law for radiant heat transfer makes it much less likely to happen if you pull it a few mm out. See http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/temperature-plotting-with-a-raspberry-pi.20720/
 

greyduck

Member
If I vape about once a week, how should I store the battery? Is it ok for me to leave the battery in the Air at 100% charge or should I remove it? If I remove it, is it ok for me to keep in a plastic ziplock sandwich bag? I would do this because I'm concerned about the battery contacts accidentally coming into contact with something metal like the tamping tool.
 

OF

Well-Known Member
If I vape about once a week, how should I store the battery? Is it ok for me to leave the battery in the Air at 100% charge or should I remove it?

Good questions. I'd say don't remove it unless you need to for charging or battery changes? Otherwise, treat it like an internal battery.

Don't store it at 100% charge for long times....ever. Notice it came to you about 75% charged? That's why. They can die in a year of so stored at 100% (no use), especially if the temperature is high. Avoid it. Instead, recharge after about 3 sessions (you'll learn how many between chargings, but four is a typical number) before the fourth when you charge it then immediately enjoy a session before putting it away?

Replacements are cheap, and easy to swap in Air, but IMO that's the best routine to preserve life.

Most importantly, enjoy your Air. It's a tool, and a fine one to be sure, but only a tool. And only truly useful when it does it's owner's bidding?

OF
 

greyduck

Member
Good questions. I'd say don't remove it unless you need to for charging or battery changes? Otherwise, treat it like an internal battery.

Don't store it at 100% charge for long times....ever. Notice it came to you about 75% charged? That's why. They can die in a year of so stored at 100% (no use), especially if the temperature is high. Avoid it. Instead, recharge after about 3 sessions (you'll learn how many between chargings, but four is a typical number) before the fourth when you charge it then immediately enjoy a session before putting it away?

Replacements are cheap, and easy to swap in Air, but IMO that's the best routine to preserve life.

Most importantly, enjoy your Air. It's a tool, and a fine one to be sure, but only a tool. And only truly useful when it does it's owner's bidding?

OF
What's considered a long time for battery storage? Do folks keep their spare batteries charged at 100%?
 

OF

Well-Known Member
What's considered a long time for battery storage? Do folks keep their spare batteries charged at 100%?

Pretty subjective, really? Some good reading on the topic here, perhaps a good place to start?
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

As I said, there's a clue in the observation that legitimate pros store/sell/deliver them at about 75% and temperature is a big wild card. Store them at 75% or so and keep them comfortable and they should give half or so capacity ten years out. Your call.

Perhaps you know a cell phone or laptop that used to live 'plugged in and ready to go' and now has very poor battery life? Now you know why (100% charge 24/7).

Battery life is a complex issue, really. For instance, notice from the BU page that stopping charging 10% early doubles you cycle life? Charging to 4.1 Volts, rather than 4.2, means your battery will last twice as long. Twice. And, as a fun side benefit of this, recharging this class of batteries (Li-ions), is like filling your gas tank. You charge 'full blast' (at the limit of the charger) for most of the time like you 'pump' gas as fast as the pump will allow at first. Then, like you at the pumps, the charger starts to taper off the charge rate to stay under 4.2 Volts like you throttle the nozzle to keep kickback under control. Charge is stopped when the rate drops to 10% of 'full blast' so it will end in reasonable time. So it fills slower and slower as it comes up to 100%. This last 10% (or half the charge if you only do one session.....) averages half the normal rate, it takes twice as long as the 10% between say 60 and 70% does. Stopping early saves about 25 minutes off every recharge (the last 25 normally). Battery management is a compromise for sure.

BTW, the Military often specifies early termination for this very reason. Typical numbers are 3.95 plus or minus .05 Volts, against the more typical 4.20 which 'comes in' 4.15 to 4.25 typically. They (the Military) will trade off run time for longer battery service life. Logistics and all that.

OF
 

Torontoke

Member
Hey guys Im about to order the arizer air and I just cant decide what colour to order. The options are Black, Silver or Titanium. Does anyone have the titanium. I would really appreciate if someone could upload pictures of their titanium unit in good lighting . Please let me know your thoughts. Im leaning towards the titanium what do you think?
 
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sickmanfraud

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Hey guys Im about to order the arizer air and I just cant decide what colour to order. The options are Black, Silver or Titanium. Does anyone have the titanium. I would really appreciate if someone could upload pictures of their titanium unit in good lighting . Please let me know your thoughts. Im leaning towards the titanium what do you think?

You can go to Arizer.com or puffitup or PlanetVape.ca and see pictures. Plenty of video reviews on youtube also.
 

greyduck

Member
Pretty subjective, really? Some good reading on the topic here, perhaps a good place to start?
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

As I said, there's a clue in the observation that legitimate pros store/sell/deliver them at about 75% and temperature is a big wild card. Store them at 75% or so and keep them comfortable and they should give half or so capacity ten years out. Your call.

Perhaps you know a cell phone or laptop that used to live 'plugged in and ready to go' and now has very poor battery life? Now you know why (100% charge 24/7).

Battery life is a complex issue, really. For instance, notice from the BU page that stopping charging 10% early doubles you cycle life? Charging to 4.1 Volts, rather than 4.2, means your battery will last twice as long. Twice. And, as a fun side benefit of this, recharging this class of batteries (Li-ions), is like filling your gas tank. You charge 'full blast' (at the limit of the charger) for most of the time like you 'pump' gas as fast as the pump will allow at first. Then, like you at the pumps, the charger starts to taper off the charge rate to stay under 4.2 Volts like you throttle the nozzle to keep kickback under control. Charge is stopped when the rate drops to 10% of 'full blast' so it will end in reasonable time. So it fills slower and slower as it comes up to 100%. This last 10% (or half the charge if you only do one session.....) averages half the normal rate, it takes twice as long as the 10% between say 60 and 70% does. Stopping early saves about 25 minutes off every recharge (the last 25 normally). Battery management is a compromise for sure.

BTW, the Military often specifies early termination for this very reason. Typical numbers are 3.95 plus or minus .05 Volts, against the more typical 4.20 which 'comes in' 4.15 to 4.25 typically. They (the Military) will trade off run time for longer battery service life. Logistics and all that.

OF
Thanks for the super informative post. I suppose that it's a good idea to get an external battery charger then to get a good idea of the charge level of the battery if I don't want to fully charge it each time since the Air doesn't have a good battery level indicator.
 

TwistedGray

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the super informative post. I suppose that it's a good idea to get an external battery charger then to get a good idea of the charge level of the battery if I don't want to fully charge it each time since the Air doesn't have a good battery level indicator.

It sucks when you're one or two minutes in and the damn thing shuts off.
 
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greyduck

Member
It sucks when you're one or two minutes in and the damn thing shuts off.
Yeah I just got mine then fully charged it and pretty sure I only used it for two sessions the first time and fired it up a couple nights ago but couldn't get it to warm up. Looked online and saw that a solid red light with flashing blue temperature light meant the battery needed to be recharged. It was a bummer since it was already late for me and I didn't want to wait 30 minutes for it to get to a level where I could use it while plugged in.
 
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OF

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It sucks when you're one or two minutes in and the damn thing shuts off.

Got a stoppage? Abandon your long arm and draw and engage with your side arm.....

Ooops, wrong venue. Same idea, if you can't reliably count to four sessions per charge, perhaps best to have a (3/4) charged 18650 in standby? Time to swap when you get caught with no heat.

Many folks grab a second (charged) battery as soon as they see a red battery indicator. That way you are not 2 minutes in and wondering why the Air doesn't work.

Yep. While the newer versions have a 'meter' of sorts added, it's crude indeed. As I recall, the entire last half of the charge is indicated by the same color? Like covering the bottom half of your car's gas gauge up, isn't it? You know there's less than half a tank left, but you've really no idea if you're about to run out of gas or have LOTS of time left.

And then there's those of us who are Color Blind enough to make the Red/Green coding a cruel joke. I can't tell the full charge from 'half or less' all I can define is the 75 to 60% 'white' step. Worst possible choice for the largest population of us so afflicted. Over half the total as I recall are R/G, most any other scheme would be better. We're not uncommon, about 1/8......about the same number as are left handed. Basically only males since females (XX) get a second chance to have normal color vision (it's in the tail that changes X to Y Chromosomes). So think about left handed men, that's basically how many Color Blind men are around you, many don't know it. Until I was about 14 I wasn't color blind officially, I was just stupid. Ask the school system. That was when I first saw an eye doctor, who tested. Very well documented, funny they would 'write us off'. Perhaps from ignorance (being female or the 7/8 that have normal color vision).

I considered 'identifying as female' to address this handicap, but am informed that's not really how it works.......

OF
 

TwistedGray

Well-Known Member
Got a stoppage? Abandon your long arm and draw and engage with your side arm.....

Ooops, wrong venue. Same idea, if you can't reliably count to four sessions per charge, perhaps best to have a (3/4) charged 18650 in standby? Time to swap when you get caught with no heat.

OF

I recharge (religiously) after three sessions now. Too lazy to buy extras just yet because I keep that this emotion of switching to concentrates, but then again...I never do.
 

Faolan

Mighty, Air1.5/Max/Go, Tinymight, Dynavap, Fury2
Got a stoppage? Abandon your long arm and draw and engage with your side arm.....

Ooops, wrong venue. Same idea, if you can't reliably count to four sessions per charge, perhaps best to have a (3/4) charged 18650 in standby? Time to swap when you get caught with no heat.



Yep. While the newer versions have a 'meter' of sorts added, it's crude indeed. As I recall, the entire last half of the charge is indicated by the same color? Like covering the bottom half of your car's gas gauge up, isn't it? You know there's less than half a tank left, but you've really no idea if you're about to run out of gas or have LOTS of time left.

And then there's those of us who are Color Blind enough to make the Red/Green coding a cruel joke. I can't tell the full charge from 'half or less' all I can define is the 75 to 60% 'white' step. Worst possible choice for the largest population of us so afflicted. Over half the total as I recall are R/G, most any other scheme would be better. We're not uncommon, about 1/8......about the same number as are left handed. Basically only males since females (XX) get a second chance to have normal color vision (it's in the tail that changes X to Y Chromosomes). So think about left handed men, that's basically how many Color Blind men are around you, many don't know it. Until I was about 14 I wasn't color blind officially, I was just stupid. Ask the school system. That was when I first saw an eye doctor, who tested. Very well documented, funny they would 'write us off'. Perhaps from ignorance (being female or the 7/8 that have normal color vision).

I considered 'identifying as female' to address this handicap, but am informed that's not really how it works.......

OF
Every time I come here you crack me up haha. :p

usually charge my air when it's on red. Just about always get a session out of red but it doesn't feel the same? If that makes any sense lol. My air gets stored at full charge usually because I forget it's charging but the battery still feels new! I should mention it never gets stored for more than a few days
 
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