Source Orb Pen Vape

[PeteSeattle]

Been using 390-420F (Ti mode of course) locked at 15-17w on the double coil, haven't used the triple yet.

@PeteSeattle Have you tried using the nails like a standard atty in the globe or XL yet?

I have in the globe and have coughed up a lung. Of course with that method is the load and go but I don't mind it. I see the vape start to form and then I'll hit it like I would any other Orb (Orb 4 ... haven't tried it yet) or Globe style. The advantage over the solid orb when using the Enails is the durability and with the glass you can kind of visually monitor how much you're vaping. The glass also makes me take shorter hits.

Btw, in case anyone missed it, Josh at Strain Central, did a review and mention us at 8:48ish (I think) and the forum.

 

[FlimsyKnuckle]

I blew my triple coil after some success with it.

Tried TC mode with it (mine won't lock wattage in TC... grrrr) was getting great hits below 400, so I turned it up to 400. Wow. That was the hardest hit I have ever had!!! Try again, atty blown. Look and notice I had it at 400 Celsius. D'oh!!! But BOY was the bowl the rods and the coils clean!!!

So... note to self, make sure I stay in Fahrenheit.

So far, the dual coil has been hitting in TC for me as well but alas, i know it is not how to best use the unit.

 

[lomein07]

Tried out the Orb XL with the Source Nails in it. Have some insight that might help.

First, I must say that hitting the Quartz nail like a "load and go" vape pen is incredibly good. Cleaner taste than any other vape pen system I've used, even better than the Quartz Terra donut.

I put the Quartz nail in the Orb XL on my iStick Pico. Set to TC-Ni mode (temperature control - nickel wire, just guessing at Nail wire material), locked in resistance at ~0.58ohms, set max wattage at 10.4W, temp at 350F. I'm taking 10-20 second draws. For low temp vaping, this is amazing. 20 second draws I'm getting large amounts of vapor that's still quite cool and smooth.

After inspecting the Source Nails, I think there's cause for people having issues, especially those who like to high temp dab. The nail's heater underneath the bowl looks like it possibly could be the exact same ceramic donut as the Source Terra.

The Source Terra donut is well known to break when powered above 15W long term. On Source's FAQ, their recommended wattage settings for dabbing on the Source Nail ranges from 17-35W. If users are running on the high end then breaking the nail heaters in less than a month may be frequent.

If this is true then it seems like these Source Nails may break often for their original purpose: high temp dabbing. The positive take away is that these Source Nails are great for use in a vape pen system for low temp vaping on the go.

One concern I still have is melting gasket seals. All of my older Orb 3 coils/Terras developed melted silicone gaskets, which results in horrible taste and arguably health safety issues. Source claims to have fixed this on the Source Nails by using higher temperature resistant Teflon gaskets. I will continue monitoring for this issue.

Finally, I wish there were smaller/lighter mouthpieces (and non-glass) for the Source Nail. The Orb XL is heavier than my iStick Pico with battery! This thing is a beast inside your pocket dragging your pants down.

 

[Bad Ocelot]

I've got the XL as well, it is heavy! Thanks for posting the settings you've been using. May give those a go tonight.

There is a glass globe attachment for the nails/510 threaded base that comes with the bubbler kit. Not sure if it's currently sold separately but I imagine it will eventually.

The nails heating element looks a little different from the terra to me. I think they use a flat donut like divine tribe's, whereas the nails look more cylindrical, or thicker rather. Haven't done a full tear down on one yet though.

 

[FlimsyKnuckle]

Small kit:

https://www.sourcevapes.com/collect...quartz-vape-pen-attachment?variant=1107334215

Medium kit:

https://www.sourcevapes.com/collect...t-coil-less-quartz-vape-pen?variant=911829851

Large kit:

https://www.sourcevapes.com/product...-coil-less-quartz-vape-pen?variant=3594175939

The Orb 4 is here baby, and ready for preorders! Check your email if you have ever ordered from them online before, they have a 50% off discount through Monday for Orb 4 kits.

 

[lomein07]

Further testing of the Source Nail in the Orb XL: bubbles are becoming an issue once in a while. Not a deal breaker, but slightly annoying.

Bubbling of your concentrate in the Nail's bowl can happen if the concentrate is overloaded, the temp is too low, or if you're drawing too lightly. Bubbling will temporarily prevent vapor from being released until the bubble is popped. (Usually pops on it's own after a few seconds) This was never a problem with previous Source coils/donuts because air was drawn in through the bottom, but with the Nail air is drawn from above.

The new Puffco Plus has a similar setup with a coil encased in the bottom of a ceramic bowl, so it has a clean bowl where your concentrate never touches the coils and air comes from above (much like the Source Nail). The difference is that the Plus mouthpiece has a tiny dabber tool inside it, so when vaping the tool sits inside the bowl and acts as a bubble popper. This is something I would like to see Source implement if they still want the Nails to be used in the load and go vape pen format.

Puffco Plus dabber tool in bowl:

 

[PeteSeattle]

Further testing of the Source Nail in the Orb XL: bubbles are becoming an issue once in a while. Not a deal breaker, but slightly annoying.

Bubbling of your concentrate in the Nail's bowl can happen if the concentrate is overloaded, the temp is too low, or if you're drawing too lightly. Bubbling will temporarily prevent vapor from being released until the bubble is popped. (Usually pops on it's own after a few seconds) This was never a problem with previous Source coils/donuts because air was drawn in through the bottom, but with the Nail air is drawn from above.

The new Puffco Plus has a similar setup with a coil encased in the bottom of a ceramic bowl, so it has a clean bowl where your concentrate never touches the coils (much like the Source Nail). The difference is that the Plus mouthpiece has a tiny dabber tool inside it, so when vaping the tool sits inside the bowl and acts as a bubble popper. This is something I would like to see Source implement if they still want the Nails to be used in the load and go vape pen format.

Perhaps I'll snag a Plus nail/carb and try it with the Enail set up. That is if I can find it as an accessory piece (I know I can ... I just have to get out of this high) on some site. Or, I may even try to make one in my glass studio (still a noob blower).

 

[lomein07]

Perhaps I'll snag a Plus nail/carb and try it with the Enail set up. That is if I can find it as an accessory piece (I know I can ... I just have to get out of this high) on some site. Or, I may even try to make one in my glass studio (still a noob blower).

The Puffco Plus is a full proprietary vape pen system. I don't think it will thread onto your Source eNail.

The Source Nail when used as a high temp eNail likely doesn't have the bubble issue I'm having, since the temps would be too high for bubbles to last long. The bubbling issue is only for people using the Nail bowls for low temp vaping in vape pens like the Orb XL.

So don't worry about it Pete in your eNail setup!

 

[PeteSeattle]

The Puffco Plus is a full proprietary vape pen system. I don't think it will thread onto your Source eNail.

The Source Nail when used as a high temp eNail likely doesn't have the bubble issue I'm having, since the temps would be too high for bubbles to last long. The bubbling issue is only for people using the Nail bowls for low temp vaping in vape pens like the Orb XL.

So don't worry about it Pete in your eNail setup!

Ah! The misunderstanding is perhaps because I don't know much about Puffco.

I graduated from one of those oval slim wax pen to Source so I'm newer to the pens.

 

[SOURCEvapes]

Tried out the Orb XL with the Source Nails in it. Have some insight that might help.

First, I must say that hitting the Quartz nail like a "load and go" vape pen is incredibly good. Cleaner taste than any other vape pen system I've used, even better than the Quartz Terra donut.

I put the Quartz nail in the Orb XL on my iStick Pico. Set to TC-Ni mode (temperature control - nickel wire, just guessing at Nail wire material), locked in resistance at ~0.58ohms, set max wattage at 10.4W, temp at 350F. I'm taking 10-20 second draws. For low temp vaping, this is amazing. 20 second draws I'm getting large amounts of vapor that's still quite cool and smooth.

After inspecting the Source Nails, I think there's cause for people having issues, especially those who like to high temp dab. The nail's heater underneath the bowl looks like it possibly could be the exact same ceramic donut as the Source Terra.

The Source Terra donut is well known to break when powered above 15W long term. On Source's FAQ, their recommended wattage settings for dabbing on the Source Nail ranges from 17-35W. If users are running on the high end then breaking the nail heaters in less than a month may be frequent.

If this is true then it seems like these Source Nails may break often for their original purpose: high temp dabbing. The positive take away is that these Source Nails are great for use in a vape pen system for low temp vaping on the go.

One concern I still have is melting gasket seals. All of my older Orb 3 coils/Terras developed melted silicone gaskets, which results in horrible taste and arguably health safety issues. Source claims to have fixed this on the Source Nails by using higher temperature resistant Teflon gaskets. I will continue monitoring for this issue.

Finally, I wish there were smaller/lighter mouthpieces (and non-glass) for the Source Nail. The Orb XL is heavier than my iStick Pico with battery! This thing is a beast inside your pocket dragging your pants down.

SOURCE nail uses specially designed proprietary ceramic donuts that can withstand up to 1,500F. They are much more powerful and robust compared to our original SOURCE terra atomizers, which is why we recommend those settings.

You are correct, though, using them as vape pen atomizers you can use them much lower wattage. We've been using the Gr2 Ti SOURCE nail on a SOURCE orb 4 at around 22w and it's delicious, smooth clouds, and incredibly efficient.

And if you're excited for SOURCE nail atomizers (which are already available) you haven't even seen our other 3 brand new atomizers

• SOURCE terra 2
• Quartz SOURCE terra 2
• Grade 1 Titanium Black Ceramic

All 5 of our new Coil-Less atomizers deliver unrivaled flavor and performance.

SOURCE orb 4 is and will be the best vape pen ever released.

 

[Danksta]

SOURCE nail uses specially designed proprietary ceramic donuts that can withstand up to 1,500F. They are much more powerful and robust compared to our original SOURCE terra atomizers, which is why we recommend those settings.

You are correct, though, using them as vape pen atomizers you can use them much lower wattage. We've been using the Gr2 Ti SOURCE nail on a SOURCE orb 4 at around 22w and it's delicious, smooth clouds, and incredibly efficient.

And if you're excited for SOURCE nail atomizers (which are already available) you haven't even seen our other 3 brand new atomizers

• SOURCE terra 2
• Quartz SOURCE terra 2
• Grade 1 Titanium Black Ceramic

All 5 of our new Coil-Less atomizers deliver unrivaled flavor and performance.

SOURCE orb 4 is and will be the best vape pen ever released.

I don't see any info about the Terra 2. Interested in checking that out. How does it differ from the nails? Both seem like a bucket and I'm unsure which I would prefer.

Have the issues with the nails been resolved?

 

[PeteSeattle]

I don't see any info about the Terra 2. Interested in checking that out. How does it differ from the nails? Both seem like a bucket and I'm unsure which I would prefer.

Have the issues with the nails been resolved?

I don't know about others but my Enail coils are still cranking out terpy vapes. The bad coil issue was adressed quickly and professionally by @SOURCEvapes and is still working without trouble.

 

[Danksta]

I don't know about others but my Enail coils are still cranking out terpy vapes. The bad coil issue was adressed quickly and professionally by @SOURCEvapes and is still working without trouble.

What nail do you prefer?

 

[PeteSeattle]

What nail do you prefer?

It's a toss up for me between the quartz or Ti. But I find them all to be good.

The quartz wins a bit more because it's easy to clean. I just pulse the mod until I can see through to the heating element. I'll then let my mod and the attachment cool before I hit it again.

I'm particular about my nails so I'd use the Ti for a sesh with friends because I won't mind them scraping the nail with a dab tool.

I use the ceramic less because I've been hitting quartz the most. But when did use it it was pretty flavorful.

 

[SOURCEvapes]

I don't see any info about the Terra 2. Interested in checking that out. How does it differ from the nails? Both seem like a bucket and I'm unsure which I would prefer.

Have the issues with the nails been resolved?

You can find basic info in the SOURCE orb 4 description. We'll release more info when we ship them out to customers.

The issue on why some customers atomizers were shorting out so quick was mainly an issue of use, which we have resolved with improved atomizer housing. Most people when tightening the atomizer into the base held the atomizer by the Ring Cap to tighten it, which would then lead to tightening the Ring Cap too tight and the bucket pressing down too hard on the heating element and cracking it.

We recommend users hold the body of the SOURCE nail atomizers when screwing them on, rather than the Ring Cap.

As always though, all of our atomizers are fully covered under our 30-Day No Hassle Warranty (even after use!), so if any have failed, feel free to email us to support@SOURCEvapes.com and we'll get those taken care of absolutely free.

 

[FlimsyKnuckle]

Are nail cups interchangeable? So if one atty dies, you can still use all three nails in a sense?

 

[Hogni]

I'm so eager for watching/ reading first reviews of the orb 4!!

 

[Steven]

You can find basic info in the SOURCE orb 4 description. We'll release more info when we ship them out to customers.

The issue on why some customers atomizers were shorting out so quick was mainly an issue of use, which we have resolved with improved atomizer housing. Most people when tightening the atomizer into the base held the atomizer by the Ring Cap to tighten it, which would then lead to tightening the Ring Cap too tight and the bucket pressing down too hard on the heating element and cracking it.

We recommend users hold the body of the SOURCE nail atomizers when screwing them on, rather than the Ring Cap.

As always though, all of our atomizers are fully covered under our 30-Day No Hassle Warranty (even after use!), so if any have failed, feel free to email us to support@SOURCEvapes.com and we'll get those taken care of absolutely free.

Hello, I am one of the early pre-orders of the source enail. I was told that pre-orders are guaranteed a free upgrade to an improved bubbler line for the email. I haven't recieved any email notice. Is this still going on

 

[alittledabwilldoya']

I'm so eager for watching/ reading first reviews of the orb 4!!

Me too!

I order a Signature Orb4 kit, should ship soon ...

 

[SOURCEvapes]

Hello, I am one of the early pre-orders of the source enail. I was told that pre-orders are guaranteed a free upgrade to an improved bubbler line for the email. I haven't recieved any email notice. Is this still going on

Yes, we'll be adding 3 new bubblers and upgrading the stock bubbler on all products.

Early adopters will be given store credit equivalent to the price of the new bubbler, and they'll be able to use it towards that bubbler or one of the other 2 premium bubblers.

Are nail cups interchangeable? So if one atty dies, you can still use all three nails in a sense?

Some users have found this to work, but usually it works well only using the same bucket atomizers (ex. Replacing the Gr2 Ti bucket with another Gr2 Ti bucket) since each one is designed for each atomizer in mind.

 

[Silat]

Yes, we'll be adding 3 new bubblers and upgrading the stock bubbler on all products.

Early adopters will be given store credit equivalent to the price of the new bubbler, and they'll be able to use it towards that bubbler or one of the other 2 premium bubblers.



Some users have found this to work, but usually it works well only using the same bucket atomizers (ex. Replacing the Gr2 Ti bucket with another Gr2 Ti bucket) since each one is designed for each atomizer in mind.

Hi,
Can you tell me if the new and current Source Orb 4 atomizers work with this: http://vapenw.com/evic-vtwo-mini

Thanks

 

[lomein07]

Some users have found [swapping eNail atomizer heaters between bucket types works], but usually it works well only using the same bucket atomizers (ex. Replacing the Gr2 Ti bucket with another Gr2 Ti bucket) since each one is designed for each atomizer in mind.

Really? Mine all arrived loose in an envelope from Source and thus were all disassembled and mixed. I looked at the atomizer housings and heater donuts but they all look the same and I can't tell them apart.

 

[electricblues42]

Will any of these new atomizers work on the source slim? I am about to run out of my quartz atomizers and since its $50 to replace them I was wondering what new offers are on the table.

 

[lomein07]

Will any of these new atomizers work on the source slim? I am about to run out of my quartz atomizers and since its $50 to replace them I was wondering what new offers are on the table.

I have the Source Slim. None of the new Orb XL/eNail/Orb 4 atomizers will fit the Source Slim.

 

[jshua586]

I'm thinking about getting the Source Orb 3, specifically for the Terra coils. But the catch is I would be running it on an eGo-C Twist (VV 3.7-4.8). It seems like there are reports of this working fine and from what I can tell, the battery sold with the Source Orb is likely the same (or very similar) build. Can anyone confirm this should work?

I'd also love to be able to rebuild the Terra atomizer but not sure what coils I would need (and if it's possible). The specs on Source's site say the Terra runs 0.9-1.1 Ohms, but all the coils I can find are 0.8. Thanks for any help!