Venty by Storz & Bickel

n0tu2

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Greetings everyone, I need some help please. I wanted to know if that update for Venty...the most recent one a requirement update? Do we all need it even if our machines are working fine? Can I not do the update if my machine is fine? I am just scared the update will mess up my unit for some reason. This is my third one...so, I don't want to fix what is not broken. I could use your expertise anyone please?

I'd update it.. S&B definately fixed some things with 1.07.. prior to that (mine was 1.02) I was getting E04s but they were random and would just instantly restart/shutdown the device and it would be fine for a while after it rebooted itself.. After the update some confidence is again restored with the device... errors have been quiet.

Update was easy.. just plugged Venty in to charge (venty bluetooth wakes up for a bit right when charging starts) and did the update from my phone (android) sitting close to it. Never really had to turn Venty on and off during update.. just kept going back to webapp and reconnecting/continued the process about 3 times till the last go and Venty was ready for use, all updated.. As a precaution I set my phone screen timeout to 10mins so it wouldn't turn off/sleep during the update and watched the bouncy dots on the Venty screen. Phone maybe 3 feet from Venty.

I believe there is only a small number of true E04s (subcode 063 for sure is a dead unit) but all the ones people were seeing in the past were BS E04s caused by firmware bug and were returning them for no reason, lol. Old firmware gets into a funky state due to a series of unknown events/conditions and once it's in that state even hard reset doesn't restore it. It holds an error log.. Update and start abusing it like you used too 😀

I just vaped another bowl (same material) and it DIDN'T happen this time. No idea what's going on here. :lol:

LOL. Always happens like this.. Maybe the hot spot worked itself out (crossing fingers).. If you've ever worked with coils sometimes they get hot spots and you scrape them away with a screwdriver (ecig vaping) sometimes hot spot can equalize on its own just firing it for a while..

Do a few max temp empty bowl burn offs/cap off to be sure.. I do this after an ISO swab.. Blowing gently over the top of bowl until all iso vapor/residual resin vapor stops coming out of the bowl.. If you blow hard directly into the bowl it will show E05 temporarily (normal). Gentle breeze over the top.. Hope it doesn't come back!
 
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AndyO

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Greetings everyone, I need some help please. I wanted to know if that update for Venty...the most recent one a requirement update? Do we all need it even if our machines are working fine? Can I not do the update if my machine is fine? I am just scared the update will mess up my unit for some reason. This is my third one...so, I don't want to fix what is not broken. I could use your expertise anyone please?
I would personally update it regardless and keep it up to date. There is complex logic in how the sensors and everything work. Apparently ones leaving the factory since November have also had iterations, 1.3, 1.4, etc. A device like this especially purchased so close to launch you really want to keep up to date.

I guess I took a contrary opinion. I think the issues with the Venty are wildly overblown - but why fix what isn't broken?

While there are still any rumoured reliability issues, I don't have a lot of interest in a firmware update. I have that lever to pull if something goes wrong, but if I update for no reason and something goes wrong, I can't pull the lever of going backwards.

All that said, if something did go wrong, I guess I'm leaving myself open to S&B saying "well there was a firmware update available that could've prevented this."
 

n0tu2

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I can't install the new firmware on my iPhone via webble.
normally it loads it and then at the end it throws a message. see photo
Does anyone have any advice?
thanks a lot

Might be some security settings on your IPhone blocking? There is another one besides web ble right? Bluefy and some other apps do the same thing too.. maybe those will work..

Any Iphone users have any other options? Check web ble permissions and give it all it needs..

Try a different Iphone, tablet, an android phone.. or a laptop w/Chrome.. Anything that has the latest Chrome browser and bluetooth.. or a PC w/Edge? If using a laptop plug usb port in for power and start charging Venty from laptop.. to wake up Venty bluetooth.

I guess I took a contrary opinion. I think the issues with the Venty are wildly overblown - but why fix what isn't broken?

The 1.07 really does fix some bugs tho.. I think it's warranted just in case.. I saw 1.06 users getting the random E04s as well.. only one claim of E04 on 1.07 and it was an 063.. a real E04
 
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AndyO

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The 1.07 really does fix some bugs tho.. I think it's warranted just in case.. I saw 1.06 users getting the random E04s as well.. only one claim of E04 on 1.07 and it was an 063.. a real E04

I think I'm still on 1.04. Haven't had any issues.

I did have a look at it the other day, but I wasn't able to update it from the Bluefy iphone app even if I'd wanted to.
 
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justcametomind

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I can't install the new firmware on my iPhone via webble.
normally it loads it and then at the end it throws a message. see photo
Does anyone have any advice?
thanks a lot
I updated on mine, but I used Bluefy. My Venty was already 1.05 though. The most thrilling moment was when I had "Er04" displayed while upgrading the firmware. But that's the last time I have seen that.
 
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FlyingJustice

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Loving the Venty a lot! Had it for over a month now and I'm still amazed each time I use it. I was afraid of getting the E04 errors and so watched the screen like a hawk but so far no issues. Bought both the filling aid and dosing capsules to try out. After using each for a bit, I prefer the filling aid as I don't have to empty/fill the capsules. I just grind to fill the filling aid and then when out, I'll screw it onto the Venty and fill then toss the AVB when done. Makes walking my dog with the Venty much easier.

Running it with a high artisan dynavap stem that is connected with a Simrell Venty adapter, the vapor is much tastier and cooler now. With the stock mouthpiece, it can get hot and make it uncomfortable to take hits.

Got a Senhed (@Sedhed.studio on instagram) case and highly recommend it for those who are on the fence about it. Prevents your hand from getting too hot when holding the Venty but also has slits/holes around so the heat can dissipate.

It has a leather strip on the bottom to act as a built-in stand which caught me off guard when I first realized what it was for. It is like he thought of everything, even shipped it with a 3D printed Venty so the case doesn't get damaged. I kept it so I can troll my friends by pretending to hit it and pass it to them.

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MoltenTiger

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I doubt it's PEEK melting..? misconceptions with PEEK and regular plastics.. People think 'it's made of plastic' it's cheap.. they are thinking of their remote control and other electronic device plastics.. That type plastic melts with a BiC lighter flame and reeks when burned - lol. If PEEK was cheap to use everyone would be using it.. This is a high end plastic polymer that's heat resistant and won't even start to melt unless it hits 662-723F.. If it was that hot he would have combusted way before. Off gassing is also very low with PEEK and even after long very high heat exposures it releases very few hydrocarbons and pure water molecules. The heater is all metal and coil only surrounded by a PEEK shell.. the body is hard as a rock and not a flimsy feeling plastic.. those who own will contest.

Those melty buttons I doubt too.. doubt they melted.. I think they are made of some cheap China plastic that broke around the triangle seams from excessive use.. most people don't use the plus/minus buttons after setting temp and boosts once so my guess is S&B did cheap on those thinking regular plastic may be fine for the buttons... but yeah, probably wasn't a good idea.. bad batch/supplier/choice. Not defending them as they made some poor choices on the buttons.



Did you put anything in there out of the ordinary before this started happening? Hash or concentrates? It looks like carbon or hash turd remnants.. Is your bud from a dispo/legal? could be some adulterated stuff being left behind after it's vaped. Remember the grit weed scare? Clowns putting salts or glass beads to make it sparkle/better bag appeal.. but that wouldn't explain why it only occurs in that one spot.. even if you combusted I don't think it would stick to the bowl like that? I must of put 100 bowls through mine so far and it looks brand new / no stains like that at all.. I've just been brushing the avb out.. most of it falls out by itself when tapped out.. Just doing ISO swabs every once and a while (15-20 bowls) and a quick burn off.. Are you doing all max 410F power hits?

This is an odd one ..
The debris looks like charred chamber contents and not melted plastic.
Note though that Bic flames hit ~1300°C so will definitely burn and melt PEEK.
Difference is that it will self extinguish and be compliant with needle flame testing.

The outer enclosure is probably an ABS / PC mix, the polycarb additive will allow thie ABS material to pass compliance testing. Though I don't know which standards they must meet and the details.

The overmolded orange plastic on the buttons is likely some other plastic mix (I guess they're softer?)
The photo I saw here showing the disintegrated buttons looked like they got something wrong with the mix on the overmould to me.

The QA with this product is frustrating to see, and the price of the Venty is astronomical to boot. For what you're getting it's a shame they're bothering to make them in Germany.
 

LaughingDog

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I just got the Venty and am experiencing random E04 errors. So far I've been able to reset the venty and overcome the error without missing a session. I will be looking into the firmware upgrade to hopefully overcome the issue.

That said, this is the best portable I've ever used, I don't regret the purchase. I've had the Mighty + and I like the Venty a lot more. The form factor, quick heat up, effortless draw, great taste, consistency can't be beat.
 

LaughingDog

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I've been doing some experimenting and it appears to me that the E04 error gets generated when I draw very hard. If I take a normal draw I can hit it time and again but If I really inhale it errors out. I'm hitting it through a bong.
 
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chillAtGVC

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@LaughingDog my guess on that is that you are causing the new flow rate sensor to send data that the software is not expecting. Or that the flow rate sensor is not able to encode properly.
 
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LaughingDog

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@LaughingDog my guess on that is that you are causing the new flow rate sensor to send data that the software is not expecting. Or that the flow rate sensor is not able to encode properly.
Yes, I believe overdrawing it causes the error. That only occurs when I inhale as sharply as I can. Normal draws that are effortless produce great clouds without erroring out.

Is there any documentation on the error codes?
 
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Octavia

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Is there any documentation on the error codes?
I believe if you hit + when the error is displayed it displays either the message or sub error code. Might be wrong on the button though, the correct button was mentioned shortly after folks got their replacement units
 
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chillAtGVC

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It is the + button to see the subcode of E04. I doubt that S&B is going to release what these mean, they are internal codes for the firmware team.
 
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